Richard Spencer goes full globohomo

submitted by EthnocratArcheofuturist from self.debatealtright

In this segment with Ed Dutton, Spencer's contrarianism goes off the rails. Russia is more degenerate than the West, Russian shitlibs are great, white liberals in the US are the future of white identitarianism, and the feminist leader of Finland is the second coming of Oswald Mosley. Those are some of the insane takes he now spouts. I can't take him seriously anymore. I've been one of the staunchest defenders of him for years, but that's over. He's no longer a serious thinker. He's become nothing but a cringe contrarian. His defense of NATO and the current West disgusts me.

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https://youtu.be/mAWSDFCVXa8

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I think either he got some kind of talking to after the Charlottesville trial and such or he's anticipating a crackdown on people who have been against NATO in their nonsense in Ukraine.

When ZOG is embarrassed after losing the bar fight they instigated they will come home and kick the dog to death in a jewish/libtard drunk hysterical rage, white people in Europe and America are the dog. He probably thinks a bunch of dissidents are going to be put in prison and such, he's been calling them traitors and shit recently which could be interpreted as a kind of warning like when drivers will signal to others drivers about police or a speed trap. He says things like 'I don't understand why people are pro-Russia, they're fucking traitors' and shit like that, on the surface it looks like he's doing a libtardism but I think it's moreso him distancing himself from them and even warning them to cool it with the dissident remarks because or repercussions.

There's really no logical coherence with his assertions about NATO becoming an identitarian serious bloc etc, in the past I have understood all his positions because they have been well reasoned, even when I disagreed which is most places since he's a reformist, reactionary, into elite patron theory etc which I think are all nonsense. But this makes literally no sense, there's no way you can simply be mistaken on this and he's too smart to truly believe any of this, he's even been trying to blame his past pro-Russia posts on his wife having access to his social media. I think he has either been threatened/blackmailed etc or tipped off by the feds that a big dissident crackdown is coming so he's trying to save himself. Or he could just be assuming it's going to come.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I could definitely see them having some kind of sedition act for anti-GAE statements in the near future, especially if the US acts more decisively. I am definitely purging my shit if the US officially starts a war against Russia, and I'd probably recommend the rest of you to be very careful as well if it goes that far.

[–]NeoRail 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have to disagree. He has been like this for years. The 'Riding With Biden' thing, for example, was completely nonsensical and can only be interpreted as attention seeking contrarianism.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's always been doing contrarian stuff but they've always had reasoning that makes sense, even if you call it rationalisation. The stuff he's said about Russia Ukraine don't make sense.

Like voting for Biden he said the democrats would do a better job and help white people more, this is true. White people vote for the GOP in poor rural states in America and get rewarded by having whatever social benefits they had slashed over and over again forcing them deeper and deeper into poverty. At least if they voted blue they might have a couple things here and there to make their lives less miserable.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If that is his concern, he should've just kept quiet and not attracted any attention to himself. He's a traitor out to save his own skin and is actively trying to sell his former allies.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Some guy in Latvia just got detained by European authorities, looks like you were right

https://t.me/intelslava/23095

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The Czechs made it illegal to not worship the jewish side too

Whites all over Europe and America who aren't licking boot to a sufficient standard will be punished. Prolly even non-whites too if they go too far.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Prolly even non-whites too if they go too far.

https://files.catbox.moe/si8fu7.jpg

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Candace Owens better watch out

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm just praying I don't have enough reach to be targeted but God knows all it takes is one person to snitch on me for an investigation lmao

[–]negrogreBeing black is anti-white 0 insightful - 3 fun0 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Fuck that grifting bitch.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good point.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

Can we also stop pretending that Dutton is a serious thinker?

[–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

I never liked either of them. I've been in this scene for around eight years. Spencer was someone that I always heard about and saw clips of embedded in other people's videos—none of which made him seem endearing—but I still haven't watched any of his videos. Over the past few years, I haven't heard a single good thing about him. I'm always amused at the notion that 'Richard Spencer is the head of the Alt-Right', although not quite as much as the notion that 'Milo' or 'Donald Trump' are the head of the 'Alt-Right'.

I have never considered any of these three as being the leader of any social movement in which I have any interest whatsoever. They were never the 'heads' of the 'Alt-Right'. Furthermore, I never liked Spencer; I never liked the G(ay)reek Milo, who last I heard seems to be larping as a heterosexual Christian convert. Trump explicitly disavowed the 'Alt-Right' shortly after the mass media started using it as a pejorative around 2016, a trend which thankfully seems to have largely died off since then.

The way I remember it, 'Alt-Right' went from being the self-label of an internet-based social movement to a pejorative encompassing the whole Republican Party practically over night. There was a time when even standard Republican dipshits were calling themselves 'Alt-Right' consequent of the media using that term to attack Trump and some of his supporters reinterpreting it in an empowering way. They were effectively saying that we'll take your insult and wear it with pride, exactly like queers and faggots do with the terms... yep... 'queer' and 'faggot'. So now there are people who self-label as 'proud queers' and 'proud faggots'. It's the same thing with 'nigger' having became an empowering term or badge of honour in the form of 'nigga'. I think it's an IQ thing. You never see Whites call themselves 'proud honkeys' or 'proud crackers' in any serious sense; East Asians never call themselves 'proud chinks' or any such nonsense either. Stupid people seem to like appropriating the labels their enemies stick on them.

When Trump disavowed the 'Alt-Right', I remember that these people dumped that term just as fast as they embraced it, and thus it returned to being the self-label of a fairly big tent social movement united by several core, shared concerns and otherwise having a wide range of political diversity. Hence the infighting over religion and economics, in particular. Of course, a few years later we also started dumping that term ourselves.

Unlike Spencer, Dutton—a sort of classical liberal, rather Tory-ish chap who strikes me as someone who probably loves Churchill and hates 'fascism', 3P, 'Far-Right', etc.—from the get-go applied a scientistic twist to things that was lacking in the 'Alt-Right' because of its preponderance of philosophy graduates. I have for some years felt that there is too much philosophizing and not enough scientizing, but the 'Alt-Right' evidently appeals far more to humanities graduates rather than natural or social science graduates. Regardless, after a while it has seemed to me that Dutton tries to shoehorn everything into his preconceived biological, seemingly rather (Herbert) Spencerian, Social Darwinian framework. Talk about 'Natural Selection' and 'spiteful mutants' is merely one angle from which problems can be approached. But what about sociobiological, social-neuroscientific and even certain psychological and sociological approaches (while sifting through the garbage and avoiding Freudian psychoanalysis, Labeling, Foucauldianism and other rubbish paradigms)? Dutton simply does not want to leave his comfort zone.

At this point I think they're just trying to remain relevant by being contrarian and provocative. It's all about who has the 'hottest takes' and 'most superchats' and whatever. They have to come up with things that are increasingly wild and unique whilst being careful not to go too far and have everyone claim that they're full of shit.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Dutton doesn't like Churchill, he actually wrote an anti-Churchill book. I agree with your critique of him though, there's certainly some genetic element to what's going on today but the genetic determinism and trying to fit everything through his specific lens doesn't really work.

that was lacking in the 'Alt-Right' because of its preponderance of philosophy graduates. I have for some years felt that there is too much philosophizing and not enough scientizing, but the 'Alt-Right' evidently appeals far more to humanities graduates rather than natural- or social-science graduates.

Weird, I have the exact opposite impression. The alt right had a bunch of people interested in hbd, iq science etc and not enough people interested in actual serious politics.

[–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

I suppose there is Sean Last and a few other people, but they seem to me to be massively outnumbered by the philosophers like Greg Johnson (doctorate followed by a teaching role during the 1990s, and I think even going into the 2000s), Apollonian Germ, Keith Woods, Joel Davis, all of the other EBL people like Tyler Hamilton (doctorate). I think Spencer himself is also a philosophy doctorate? I remember some article, a clear hit-piece on him, in which the writer tried to get a copy of Spencer's doctorate but was rejected by the university. Also, if I remember rightly, Dutton himself is a philosophy graduate even though his videos give the impression that he's either a psychologist or biologist by training. I suppose that E. Michael Jones is another prominent example if people consider him as fitting into the big tent.

Then you also have those who may not necessarily have a degree in philosophy that are still overwhelmingly more philosophical than scientific, like Philosophicat (heavily Evolian), Daughter of Albion (clearly familiar with Nietzsche), Frodi Midjord (also clearly familiar with Nietzsche), and some might also include Academic Agent (who some months ago also dived heavily into Evola).

But when I think of just who is heavily science-leaning, isn't it really just Sean Last? I can't think of any PoliSci or sociology graduates even though both fields are useful to us when the 'woke' shit (admittedly, a very large and ever-growing chunk of it) is removed. No biologists, either, despite the large interest in it where IQ, race and genes are concerned. I suppose there are a few people who are deeply into history like 'Asha Logos'.

I agree that if we include commenters rather than judging the DR solely by content creators, there are a lot of people interested in both HBD and IQ science. But I don't think we actually have many people who are trained in these fields; or, if so, I can't name any.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Spencer is philosophy indeed, Dutton is doctorate in theology with a PhD in religious studies then he moved into doing intelligence stuff and evolutionary psychology.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

There are a lot of science guys in the alt right. Alt hype, Jared Taylor, Emil o Kierkagard, Anatoly Karlin (alt right adjacent), Survive the Jive and Thuletide to name a few.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Thuletide is a fuckin fed lmao

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What is his fed activity?

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Promoting American geopolitical interests

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What exactly?

And even if so, I still don't see that much of a problem with the rest of his work; his research particularily. These are things that 90% of us agree on, and counter the left's ideas versus those of other right-wingers.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The support of NATO and atlanticism. I don't know how scientific his analyses are either tbh they seem on the level of instagram larpers

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

But when I think of just who is heavily science-leaning, isn't it really just Sean Last? I can't think of any PoliSci or sociology graduates even though both fields are useful to us when the 'woke' shit

Calling polisci and sociology sciences is a stretch lol. Honestly I can't think of any prominent scientist in this sphere other than WLP.

[–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The same also holds true for economics, anthropology, psychology and a whole bunch of other fields. None of them are able to meet the stricter criteria of the natural sciences due to the abstract nature of their subject matters, whether polity, economy, self, law, crime, society or culture. Even physics is highly abstract, and like sociology, originated as a philosophical field.

We can hold the natural sciences to higher standards because their subject matters are objects found in the natural world. Substances, lifeforms and other natural science subjects are spatial and thus there is much less room for debate about their true nature.

Regardless, it is those social-scientific fields whose subject matters are of the most interest to us. We have aspired for decades to bring about macro-level societal change, something that cannot be achieved by tinkering with supercomputers, vials and telescopes and so forth. The DR subject matters have always been abstract, but ones with very real consequences.

We deal with anthropological problems all the time. Why is modern 'culture' so degenerate? Just how low can modern 'culture' go? Is there even such a thing as modern 'culture'? Does hyperindividualist consumerism really constitute culture? Can culture actually be revitalized, better still, can it be reconstructed from the ground up in ways that insulate from the causes of its decline today?

So too do we deal with criminological problems, ones that usually strongly suggest biocriminological explanations. Why do blacks commit so much violent crime compared to all other races?

And psychological problems. What causes 'pathological altruism'? Is 'pathological altruism' really just 'virtue signalling'? What causes 'ethnomasochism' or out-group preference?

And political and societal problems come first and foremost. What really happens in consolidated 'majority-minority' societies? Can they last, and if so, for how long? Are Brazil (the slow decline), Haiti (rapid extermination) or South Africa (rapid marginalization) good models for aiding our estimations? What exactly does it take for society to rebel? What effects have the internet, social media and OnlyFans had on society?

These fields are all useful when the crap is cut out: they need to be completely reconstructed. The problem is that the corruption of everything has predictably also corrupted education and scientific fields. Consequently, when young people enrol in sociology, they first encounter 'White privilege' (originated from a White feminist woman), 'intersectionality' (originated from a black feminist woman), 'toxic masculinity', 'hegemonic masculinity' (originated from some White M2F tranny), 'nuclear family = bad' and every other laughable garbage concept.

When drawing attention to the identity markers of those who came up with this pseudointellectual filth, it seems intuitively obvious to me that these fields aren't intrinsically prone to becoming garbage. Rather, the mass creation of degenerates and the expansion of education and science to include them—itself a sociopolitical problem, likely with some biological implications—led to their intergenerational corruption. If these feminist women, trannies and other cranks weren't in those fields, their shitty ideas wouldn't be infesting them today. But they're branching out everywhere: 'classical music is racist because it's too White', 'maths is racist', etc. We need to 'decolonize the curriculum': codewords for 'render the curriculum nig-Jew-pan-trans-fuxated beyond all recognition'.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Regardless, it is those social-scientific fields whose subject matters are of the most interest to us. We have aspired for decades to bring about macro-level societal change, something that cannot be achieved by tinkering with supercomputers, vials and telescopes and so forth. The DR subject matters have always been abstract, but ones with very real consequences.

Ah I misread you I thought you were advocating for more hard science guys in the sphere. Which there definitely are a good amount of people especially in tech and engineering but I definitely have met premed and doctors too. It's just that they don't speak out much.

And political and societal problems come first and foremost. What really happens in consolidated 'majority-minority' societies? Can they last, and if so, for how long? Are Brazil (the slow decline), Haiti (rapid extermination) or South Africa (rapid marginalization) good models for aiding our estimations? What exactly does it take for society to rebel? What effects have the internet, social media and OnlyFans had on society?

To be honest I don't think that explaining things in an academic sense accomplishes that much, academics are only as valuable as their recognition within society and recognition comes with power. So the first priority should be to acquire power and then you can go full out in exerting your power by changing the academic field, much as the jews and woke whites did in the wake of WW2. All the current academic trends are directly traceable to directives given out by organs of power in the aftermath of Nuremberg. Tracing the history of anti-racism is really interesting and explains so much of our world today.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

WLP?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

William Luther Pierce

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's Doctor William Luther Pierce to you

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

philosophers like Greg Johnson (doctorate followed by a teaching role during the 1990s, and I think even going into the 2000s)

He was a big deal in academia actually.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

My reading is that the alt right had too many philosophers and scientists. They were either completely esoterical philosophers or completely scientific-minded genetic determinists or HBD autists.

It needed more people that were well-versed in the fields of history, meta-politics, covert politics and geopolitics.

[–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Given the political circumstances today, I think there is greatest need for journalists, activists and people with leadership qualities, rather than anything else. I disagree that there are too many philosophers, though. Even the more philosophy oriented guys like Keith Woods mostly deal with politics instead of philosophy.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Philosophers always talked about politics. Philosophy is the study of ideas and human societies. You can't be a real philosopher without delving into politics.

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    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Nietzsche's project is deeply political.

    [–]Wrangel 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It is kind of funny since at any alt right meetup irl nearly everyone who has a degree is a STEM major. The alt right is generally very programmer heavy. But, it does seem like a lot of the public faces are philosophy majors.

    I agree that Dutton tries to explain everything under the sun with genetics and biology, and that has ideology is a bit weak. But, I still enjoy him and find him valuable since he is good at his science. Dutton is worth watching if you scale down his claims by a factor of three.

    [–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    If your first paragraph is correct, and I have no reason to doubt it, then there is a large and rather unobserved discrepancy between content creators and the run-of-the-mill commenter who likes, upvotes, comments, etc. but does not upload. I suppose then that the philosophers are more interested in becoming 'public faces' or 'public intellectuals' than the scientists and others. It's a tough one: I usually think of philosophers as tending towards introversion, but our version of them conversely tend to be very talkative. I suppose it isn't impossible. Many of the Ancient Greek philosophers, often living in communes with the like-minded and writing very little (or nothing in the case of Socrates, who was averse to writing), clearly would have talked more than they wrote.

    [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I think the sort of person who studies philosophy in the present day is likely far more extroverted than your average STEM major. Along with that those who study philosophy are much more likely to come across arguments against the current paradigm than any other subject I can think of. Nowhere else in academia do you really get the opportunity to study schools of thoughts that are so opposed to modernity.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Dutton is a one trick pony. His spiteful mutant theory is good but it can only go so far. Trying to fit everything into one theory always fails and it fails for him as well. That's why he thinks the Tories are the party of whites and are going to save Britain.

    Spencer and Dutton are both anglo saxon upper class. It just goes to show you how useless this stock of people are to the DR cause. They are at their core, utilitarian liberals.

    [–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That's why he thinks the Tories are the party of whites and are going to save Britain.

    Does he genuinely believe that? Damn, I guess maybe it’s just naked self interest, given his posh background because there isn’t a ‘conservative’ party in the west that’s less cucked than the Tories.

    [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    At this point I think they're just trying to remain relevant by being contrarian and provocative. It's all about who has the 'hottest takes' and 'most superchats' and whatever. They have to come up with things that are increasingly wild and unique whilst being careful not to go too far and have everyone claim that they're full of shit.

    The problem with the dissident right at this point might be the murky ground between those who create content for income and those who are political actors. Both aims have conflicting interests and those content creators who claim to be the latter often subvert that in favor of the former.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There was a time when even standard Republican dipshits were calling themselves 'Alt-Right' consequent of the media using that term to attack Trump and some of his supporters reinterpreting it in an empowering way.

    The 'alt lite' crew lasted a bit longer.

    Hence the infighting over religion and economics, in particular. Of course, a few years later we also started dumping that term ourselves.

    I fought that change. Keeping similar 'brands' is important for marketing your ideas. They clearly backed us off the label because it had a unifying effect among young intelligent disenfranchised whites. Alt right was quickly becoming edgy and cool. The newest way to rebel and tell authorities: fuck off. It was even attracting women. That had to be scary for the Jews that rule us. Their whole stick is 'liberating' white women to disavow white males. The alt right was making being a wife and having white babies cool and rebellious. That being said I accepted the shift to 'dissident' for several reasons. First, it brought in the trad caths which I think are an important edition. Next it helped protect our younger members from fucking up their entire life through self-doxxing. "Dissident" had more nuance and plausible deniability than alt right or white nationalist. "Dissident" was also a more encompassing term for the big tent of religions and political philosophies being tossed around. Being dissident meant you agreed on some core things: Racial differences, opposing white genocide, hating the new world order, hating LGBT propaganda, pro fitness, accepting false flags as a reality and of course being willing to at least question Jewish power. "Dissident" was a broader term for sure but represented a more mature phase.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes.

    [–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I may have to listen just to be able to better articulate my strong disapproval of Spencer. He could in fact be a fee but not sure what the upside would be. I stick to my theory he is just a rich dandy who likes to be outrageous because he didn't get enough attention from his mom and dad.

    [–]DisgustResponse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Anything ol' Dickie Spencer says should be viewed through the lens of someone who is highly, highly, likely compromised and has an axe to grind with former associates.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Spencer is right in many regards (overall, I kind of forgot what he said in that particular stream), European unity is on the rise, you can clearly see it among normies. It is misfortunate that Russia is the other in this case, and it is unfortunate that people are uniting for ZOG cause, but it is what it is. It is to be seen though if this emerging consciosness will trascend into something greater.

    I agree with Markimus about him being talked to by the feds after the Charlottesville trial, he is most definitely being obtuse on purpose (again, all of his premises are correct, only the conclusion is wrong, and wrong conclusion cannot naturally come out of correct premises), however, back to the first point, I don't buy into loser beating a dog hypothesis. If anything, ZOG will see value of nationalism, considering both of each side's warriors are nazis, and we will get more of these fake grifting thought-leaders who will lead people astray (rather desperate strategy, but I have no doubts it will be successful sadly).

    Also you have to be aware that at some point you have to side with "yourself". Many people live in realities which are not their own. It's easy to talk about the abstractions here when your safety and safety of your people is not endangered. At some point neutrality won't be an option and shit will catch up to you. I am just throwing this out there, I'm not saying this conflict will escalate. If Spencer sees it this the way Markimus described, all power to him, I just don't know how wise it is, considering his last Twitter Space maxed at 9 viewers, and considering this conflict probably won't go anywhere.

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    It is to be seen though if this emerging consciosness will trascend into something greater.

    I don't see how it possibly could. I think a lot of people who are attached to the idea of "tribalism" erroneously think all tribalism is the same, when what is actually important is what people are being tribal about - and even then, tribalism is a massive step down from good old simple loyalty.

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    That's true, as it is right now it's some form of Reddit-tier tribalism, as Haz has said in his debate with Spencer, but I ultimately think thst "fuck with one of us, fuck with all of us" mindset is good.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    I don't buy into loser beating a dog hypothesis. If anything, ZOG will see value of nationalism, considering both of each side's warriors are nazis, and we will get more of these fake grifting thought-leaders who will lead people astray (rather desperate strategy, but I have no doubts it will be successful sadly).

    Cracking down on anti-Gayto IE actual dissidents and then promoting fake nationalists who are pro-Gayto aren't contradictory. It can be both.

    Every time jews take an L (or at any opportunity even when they don't take an L) they will lash out and do a bunch of fuckery to harm white people. Charlottesville lawfare, putting James Fields in prison forever, starting BLM riots and putting white people who've clearly committed no crimes in prison in multiple separate cases, launching the new anti-white institution of Karening people etc etc.

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    I think plain old fragmentation will just do the trick, if they want to stick to the old ways.

    What was the L about BLM riots though? That's just jews cracking down on goyim.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Edited comment for clarification of what I mean :)

    I mean jews take any opportunity or pretext to fuck with white people in any way they can. A bunch of people being anti-Gayto seems like a great opportunity.

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    True, true.

    Edited comment for clarification of what I mean :)

    Sneed

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    sneed

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    Insightful and funny 😎👍🏻

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I mean, who cares, Spencer was always a honeypot.