Putin declares jihad on the Russian oligarchy

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    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Indeed, this is sweet irony and mildly amusing. Thank you for that report.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The rats are predictably attempting to flee the sanctions by running to Israel.

    It's looking more and more like this was the real motivation for setting up the state in the first place.

    [–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    What does that actually mean in practical terms?

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    I expect nationalisation of certain companies owned by cosmopolitans, he said something about the free market getting them out of the sanctions tho so I'm not sure... Maybe just bluster because everybody hates rootless cosmopolitan elites and it'll make him look good

    [–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    That's one possibility lol. I really think it is unfortunate both for Putin and for the Russian nationalists that the state cracked down on nationalism so hard. If there was still common ground between the two, the sanctions and international isolation would have been the perfect conditions for a national turn to autarky and political reform.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    Just saw this, dunno how trustworthy it is

    It still could be but with the kind of patriotard stuff you usually see in libtard countries. We have it a lot here where the government and big businesses will use the union jack as branding and go on about making Britain great and loving homegrown companies and all that horseshit. I could see him making the state more serious while using patriotic rhetoric but still being hostile to real nationalism like national populists are in the west, but with some real policies.

    [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I agree, it seems to me that Putin wants nationalism without nationalists. I do not think that is a very effective strategy, but it is hard to see where else he could go from here.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yeah nationalism without nationalists. I'm not sure if this is true in China or Russia but it seems along the line of the same kind of thing if it is.

    I can see Putin going into a kind of developmental nationalist state but without much ideology behind it and with repression of fascists. Like a mix between Salazar's anti-fascism with China's state model.

    [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    One of the comments about the Russian government being more afraid of its supporters than its opponents seems very accurate. A few years ago when there were still people who called for a dictatorship in Russia and addressed Putin with autocratic titles, the government response was to immediately sideline and ignore these people. I really think that Putin must be a liberal in his heart, because otherwise it is hard to understand why he would do this. If establishing a "managed democracy" in Russia was supposed to be some sort of optics strategy to achieve an understanding with the West, it is clearly not working.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Russia is legitimately autarkic. It has its own big tech and growing. Its outside the atlanticist axis. Everything is gay and fake in UK because its the core of zog.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    But the core of ZOG, due to its position on the east west axis can easily switch to the Eurasian side.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    You are living in 2015. Russian nationalists are not persecuted anymore and libs are on the receiving end.

    Russia has already become autarkic since 2014 and this is the final push with the withdrawal of Western companies.

    Stop with the excessive blackpilling.

    [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    You are basing this off of that one Karlin article which I do not find acceptable at all.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Do you have any source other than repeatedly saying you don't consider X or you don't think Y?

    [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Source on what exactly? Karlin himself acknowledges that nationalists get persecuted in Russia, he just asserts that that's a good thing. As to the state of Russian nationalism, I am not aware of any good nationalist organisations there, but at any rate these are not likely to emerge if there is state persecution. If you think Putin's antifascist liberation war is a clear sign of nationalist revival in Russia then I imagine the Iraq war waged against Nazi Saddam and the associated neocon patriotism must also make you ecstatic.

    [–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    these are not likely to emerge if there is state persecution. If you think Putin's antifascist liberation war is a clear sign of nationalist revival in Russia then I imagine the Iraq war waged against Nazi Saddam and the associated neocon patriotism must also make you ecstatic.

    👍🏻 Well said

    s/casparvoneveric I’m probably as happy that Putin is giving the F-you to the American dominated, unipolar liberal world order as you are… but I’m not going to make the same mistake many did with Trump & put him on a pedestal.

    He’s good but has way too many boomer-hangovers that belong in the last century. Russia can still do better.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    I wish I could see that telegram BS.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    He was talking shit about Russians who live in Russia but "in their minds" live in the west, needed villas in the French Riveria and Miami and eat fancy food like oysters. That need "gender freedoms" lol.

    Basically he was was establishing a divide between Good Old Boy Russias and Bad Western loving Ruskies who aren't true patriots.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    Nice, very based, as usual. I don't love the guy, but I respect the guy.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Here you get cancelled for saying the wrong thing, there you get jailed, killed, disappeared, sent off to gulags. I hope Putin fails miserably personally because him succeeding might be bad for the globohomo agenda, but his own agenda isn't better just cause it's different. That's a shitty government. Their post office barely works. I doubt their nuclear arsenal works properly. It's just kinda a backwards regressive regime.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Is it, or is that the leftover habits from the old Soviet regime, encouraged by the oligarchy as a way to keep the people down, and themselves above them.

    Putin is a traitor to the NWO and, I believe, the great hope of mankind. ANYTHING is better than the totalitarian communist NWO 1984-ultra regime. Even nuclear annihilation.

    [–]TheJamesRocket 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    ANYTHING is better than the totalitarian communist NWO 1984-ultra regime. Even nuclear annihilation.

    Agreed. Nuclear war would be a better outcome for humanity than Neofeudalism. Civilisation might recover from the former, but not from the latter.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    To me, it isn't just "civilization" that is in play, but the very nature of what it means to be human. Total enslavement would mean a re-engineering of "humans" on the DNA level to the point where we are not human at all anymore. THE IRREVERSIBLE END OF MANKIND.

    Even if we go back to the stone age for a century or 12, a nuclear armageddon would let some actual humans remain.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Nuclear war would allow humans to do a reboot. Neofedualism means eternal slavery where a handful of rich Jews and shabbos, live for centuries due to life extension therapies (genetic treatment, cybernetic modification, grafting brain onto young clones, frequently changing body parts) and they rule over a vast class of serfs that are genetically engineered to be subservient cattle or just drugged and brainwashed to the n-th degree.

    We already see the beginnings of the latter. Every generation is more drugged and brainwashed than the last.

    [–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Looks like Putin is finally paying attention to the Atlanticist faction. Hopefully he purges those bastards.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    At least one part of the white race will survive

    [–]Richard_Parker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    France has the best potential.

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    If he was truly based he would have purged these people long ago.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Better late than never.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The situation wasn't there. Russia wasn't prepared as now, China was not an ally, the US was much stronger and the Russian elites were not as localized.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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