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[–]Nasser 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I really fucking hate these obnoxious conspiratards that have infested this movement ever since covid escalated.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's mostly just this site I think, the userbase is just schizos and lolberts. Although covid did the 'scratch a nazi and a racist libtard bleeds' bit for some guys.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

We're dissidents. Most of our platform is perceived as a 'conspiracy' to the normie public. If a conspiracy is 'ridiculous' by your standards then it should be easy for you to argue against it, but complaining about 'conspiratards' is low effort.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Cmon bruh, if you think vanishing bullets isn't 'conspiratard' you gotta get a brainscan. The shit this forum slider was talking about is beyond retarded.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I haven't read the whole thread so I don't even know what /u/Tom_Bombadil is pushing. I'm just tired of the 'conspiratard' label. Everything is open for examination at this point. When I get a chance and read everything I will try to come back into the thread.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I wouldn't bother with that, it's just stupid. The guy was saying Brenton Tarrant killing the muslims in New Zealand wasn't real because the quality of the livestream video made it impossible to see where all the bullets landed on the ground due to it being a gopro and a livestream, probably relying on 3g or something.

His explanation is that it must've been CGI bullets and the government messed up their CGI which made the bullets disappear mid-air. Really dumb stuff.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Got it. Shortly after that event there was a video circulating on pol outlining all the inconsistencies in video footage (shoes being on and off, magazines appearing and reappearing, squib bags, etc). Their wasn't enough evidence in the video for me to call the event a false flag but there was certainly some questionable artifacts. Maybe that's what /u/Tom_Bombadil is referencing? It's a good impulse to question all mass shootings. The government and their satanist allies have already shown us that one of their hoax strategies is to fake public shootings. We shouldn't ever just give the mainstream media the benefit of the doubt. Especially on events like the New Zealand shooting. New Zealand is also the most locked down and elite cabal controlled country in the world. Many suspicion it's the main fall back position for globalists when they decide to control demolition the west.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The problem is focusing on these stupid little details, you know what that is? Classic deflection, like in magic tricks.

The real meat of the story is this guy went to Israel; said jews aren't a problem in his little manifesto; hated muslims so bad he wanted to kill them, yet he travelled to muslim countries (Pakistan). So was he a Mossad operative? Was he doing something for Mossad in Pakistan? If they're competent enough to somehow fake the death of 50 people they're going to be competent enough to not fuck up a bunch of basic details in video editing that low IQ schizophrenics easily pick up on, clearly those inconsistencies are due to bad internet infrastructure in Aus/NZ which is well known, along with recording on his gay little bugman device.

It's obvious that 99% of conspiracy theory crap is to get people focused on specific random trees instead of the forest.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's a website called sgtreport that has a section where he goes through real conspiracies and disinformation conspiracies. I agree with most of his points in that section.

If they're competent enough to somehow fake the death of 50 people they're going to be competent enough to not fuck up a bunch of basic details in video editing that low IQ schizophrenics easily pick up on, clearly those inconsistencies are due to bad internet infrastructure in Aus/NZ which is well known, along with recording on his gay little bugman device.

That's true and my current position is that the shooting was real. I'm also aware of the constant fake conspiracy pushing to dilute the information and hide what's really going on. That being said I've noticed you have a tendency to just out right reject anything that smells like conspiracy at all without hearing out the argument. You're not the only person in our movement that does that. I notice it from guys like Spencer and Mark Brahmin. They almost have a conspiracy allergy. You have to beat them over the head with facts before they start exploring the hypothesis. All I know is they that multiple CIA directors and influential globalists have repeatedly said their goal is to make sure the public is living in a false reality on all fronts. That means as dissidents we can't get comfy and just accept the common explanation for anything. Everything needs to go back to first principles and be examined in detail. If something is true it will survive critical analysis. If the New Zealand shooting was real it would easily survive critical analysis. Unfortunately with many of these events (Las Vegas for example) the media seems hellbent on stuffing it down the memory hole. That drive me to research and analyze in more detail. You and I really wouldn't be here if it weren't for 'low IQ schizophrenic autists' hadn't re-analyzed the holocaust, race matters, 9/11, Jews, etc.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There's a massive difference between conspiracy stuff and these examples you gave, they occupy opposite logical positions. Holocaust affirmation relies on conspiratorial thinking, in fact it's the most egregious example of it, whereas holocaust denial relies on rational thinking. Same with race denial again relies on conspiratorial thinking, same with white privilege etc. I am consistent in rejecting all of these obvious lies/delusions and only thinking rationally about all these matters, as i do with conspiracies.

If those things you mentioned were argued the same way people argue for conspiracies then I wouldn't be here indeed, but they're not because they're distinguished from conspiracies. Of course some low iq, schizo etc people end up talking about jews and shit but it's very easy to see the difference.

The reason our sub was popular is because we attracted smart guys who formulated arguments well.

we weren't posting comments

that look like this

and we werent RANDOM CAPSLOCKING

and other schizo/retard looking shit

We had narratives that were better than everyone else's, our narratives explained the past and predicted the future better than anyone else, our soyenceheads debunked race stuff with fax and logik for the spergs. We had pretty much 0 reliance on anything to do with speculation and saying things were fake and whatever else conspiracy guys get up to.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All good points.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not really. I had many liberals agree with me about HBD stuff and they admitted it's supressed mostly because of political implications. Same with Holocaust denial, there is a clear motive, countless of inconsistencies, countless of instances of it being abused for political purposes, etc., it doesn't require conspiracy-thinking at all and only people who will call you conspiracy theorist are hardline bootlickers.