A brief background to the American-Russian enmity and the conflict in Ukraine.

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    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Germany and France want a more unified EU that can be another node of world power besides the US and China. Their desire for European power is undermined by NATO and American presence in Europe. Countries like Poland and the UK also court the US to counteract Franco-German domination.

    My guess is that the Franco-German core wants closer integration with Russia in a bid to reduce American influence in the continent.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    No, only France wants that. It's part of Macron's Jupitarianism. Germany wants to de-escalate the Russia crisis because they're highly dependent on its gas. The Germans are still the biggest NATO cucks on the continent.

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    Germany wants to de-escalate the Russia crisis because they're highly dependent on its gas

    Perhaps, but the EU as a whole is dependent on Russian gas and they're not as anti-sanctions as Germany. There are definitely bigger geopolitical factors at play. Remember, these two did not participate in the Iraq war either but pro-nato countries like Poland and the UK did.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    the EU as a whole is dependent on Russian gas

    Yes, but some countries -- like Germany -- are much more dependent on it.

    these two did not participate in the Iraq war either

    That's because France has some independence and dignity left. For Germany it was just cucked guilt. They didn't want to invade a brown country.