Has the Bell Curve ruined anyone elses enjoyment of life?

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

Didn't you get something like 100 in the IQ test?

[–]shilldetector 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, hes probably just a blork3d alt and the 109 isnt his real score. Who the fuck knows, I dont even care anymore as most of the DAR shills or trolls seem relatively harmless so long as you dont let them spam the sub with troll posts. They may be doing some kind of oppo research or may just be mentally ill. The fuck if I know.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

IQ is gay I was tested in the high 140s as a kid and had the GATE shit (God knows what that did to me) and it doesn't have a bearing on success in the modern world (which boils down to showing up and showing deference to superiors). All it means is that you figure shit out faster.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree IQ absolutism and IQ fetishism are stupid. I wouldn't care what the avg White IQ was I'd still want to preserve our people and our ways. I think it's important for public policy in general and more significant than what you say but placing it at the forefront of your ideas is pretty stupid.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean it's not unimportant but it's not the key to an enlightened existence or anything. That said IQ is definitely at the top of my list for finding a woman bc my kids would be our average.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

and it doesn't have a bearing on success in the modern world (which boils down to showing up and showing deference to superiors). All it means is that you figure shit out faster.

Which is still pretty damn important, since the modern world relies entirely on speed.

Whether it's sports, music, art, trades, software development etc, in every career the person who can think the fastest is always at an advantage.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If only objective performance mattered more than likeability and deference in hierarchies. God I hate white collar politics so much. Academia, military, corporate, everywhere is like this.

[–]AidsVictim69 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All it means is that you figure shit out faster.

Not really. It's extremely difficult to impossible for many high level concepts/forms of abstracted thought to be understood by people with 100 or less IQ, at least in any useful timeframe or dynamically enough for their input to be valuable. Leaders tend to be high IQ (relative to their peers) for a reason. Anyone who has taught can tell you that some people are just never going to understand some concepts in any useful capacity, it's not just that they're slower learning it, it's that the best they can do is rote regurgitation with handholding.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most high level jobs are just shifting stacks of paper anyway, shame the highest IQs in the modern world are wasted doing that.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

109

Which is still above average, but even I still hate the fact I was born below the benchmark that cuts off before genius.

As I explained in an earlier post to send_nasty_stuff, we live in a world that is constantly aiming to be more successful than others, and the moment you fall behind, the entire world takes advantage of you.

A good example right now, factory jobs are becoming obsolete. Most people are realizing the crappy pay and standing behind a conveyer belt all day has no benefits. CEO's will respond by getting robots to do the job for even cheaper than this. Since the low IQ depend on jobs that have no skill, they face a future that is ready to move on without them.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

109 makes perfect sense. Just in my experience it's always midwits -- or sub-midwit in your case -- who go around moaning about how stupid everyone is. They also seem to love the sound of their own banal voice and think they're utterly fascinating individuals. You're a perfect example.

Id love to know why that is.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

If you want a real answer, being a midwit has allowed me to experience a greater range of jobs, while having a unique advantage of being self aware of my position.

You'll rarely see a Doctor or President, shovel their own snow or take out garbage. They'll just pay some laborer or maid to do it for them.

But I've been open to working in factories or retail before, and it becomes immediately apparent, you have to babysit a lot of people who failed school and need a lot of handholding just to do basic stuff.

I have also done jobs where my co-workers could not solve a simple question like 1+1 = 2. They were seriously that DUMB. It just feels so awful that we let these people exist when their goals in life are extremely limited. It's either that, or a lot of them turn to crime and further drag down society.

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    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    I don't think the comparison works.

    There's a lot more overlap with an average IQ person and geniuses, than there are with retards and average IQ.

    An 85 IQ would be hard pressed to live a normal life, when they most likely failed school, don't quite understand technology, and are much more prone to joining organized crime or street gangs.

    Someone who is 100 IQ is not dumb, but just boring. They're very good at their jobs, probably own a home and understands the importance of civilization. Where they struggle is with entering leadership roles that can influence and directly shape society.

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      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      Actually, that's not true.

      https://files.catbox.moe/fhn1be.jpg

      You can find 100 IQ people in the highest roles of society, whereas 85 IQ never associate with geniuses or reach their ranks.

      Edit: And since I'm 9 points above average, I'm even closer to the people deemed extra smart.

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        [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Yeah, but as I pointed out with my above chart, practically no one with 85 IQ is associated with abstract thinking.

        They are retards to me because they don't even begin to register the things I'm saying. Whereas I still understand someone who is 124 IQ because two scientists or two engineers can graduate from the same source or underwent the same training.

        It's like comparing the gulf between a 2 year old, an 18 year old and a 60 year old. An 18 year old would be better off understanding the boomer, vs the baby who can't even listen to a teenager.

        [–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I just realized something. He says his IQ score was 109. Hmm, where have I heard that number before? Lmao. He's probably trolling us.