Martin Luther King Jr Day is proof Whites need to start voicing opposition.

submitted by radicalcentristNational Centrism from (self.debatealtright)

Even though it's a meme holiday, the fact that we still see this man being plastered all over the media as a "hero" is a frightening reminder of how diversity has been normalized.

In fact, even as a non-American, I have a reason to hate this man. It's because of MLK Jr, he pushed the idea that races can somehow equal.

Forget IQ. Forget Biology. Hell, just forget basic economics. Millions of White Americans are taught to look up to this man because he sold a lie that Blacks were just victims and if Whitey just gave them access to schools or sit on the same buses, than life as we know it would be paradise.

HAHAHAHA.

Its been 50+ years, and Blacks have been given all the help they need but still remain at the bottom of society. Even worse, Blacks have never once said "thank you" for letting White man share their high tech society with them. Everyday, the media puts White people on blast. Somehow suggesting the problem with America, is with the people who literally built it from the ground up.

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[–]negrogreBeing black is anti-white 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Martyrdom is a powerful drug. It makes people believe their mission even more just.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Question for Americans, how common is it that a person can drop a single quote from "I have a dream" speech (other than "I have a dream" parts lol)?

I guess some tiny portion people do because civil rights classes, it's bound to stick with some people, but I feel that for the most part it's just astroturfed meme, just like plagiarizing doctor himself.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

You're correct, most American schools have an ironically lackluster presentation of MLK. The Kingology is usually just enforced with a general "blacks are now legally equal" without any context, and his "murder" by a white man served as a good segway into the next stage of our Negrolatry, where changing the laws wasn't good enough and whites will always impede blacks in the US, if not by law than by social pressure and treatment. The conclusion isn't too hard to understand, if we can't be equal, one side has to go.

On a related note, Malcolm X was a much better black rights activist, who was not an astroturfed meme, and the blacks ended up killing him. He doesn't fit into the liberal narrative and is largely expunged from the American mythos, but he has more of a right to the throne MLK sits on in our history.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Malcolm X was a much better black rights activist,

Absolutely. Had some very harsh words for Jews and White liberals as well.

A bit like Marcus Garvey and W.E. DuBois though the system has done its best to shine the light on the worst of the Black advocates. Malcolm X and Garvey were for Black independence and self-reliance not sitting there screaming for decades at Whitey for a handout.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed, especially about Garvey. It's a shame nothing more could have happened with Pan-Africanism, the world might unironically be better.

[–]negrogreBeing black is anti-white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The King "can't we all get along" ideology was/is a lot easier to package and sell than the more confrontational Malcom X. It's funny because black rhetoric takes more after Malcolm X than it does MLK.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Malcolm X also invited George Lincoln Rockwell and other Nazis to his talks.

https://files.catbox.moe/g36m8r.jpg

The 1960s was a weird time. America had a chance to save itself, but it went down the path of open borders and the civil rights act instead.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Malcolm X, like MLK, had also woken up, he had left the nation of islam realizing they were corrupt, he stopped being racist and worked with other races, promptly killed as he was no longer useful for dividing and conquering.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You're thinking of Elijah Muhammad. Malcolm X never went woke, he clashed with the Nation of Islam leadership because they sold out. The NOI to this day is a fed-run husk, much like what happened to the KKK. I was under the impression Malcolm X was killed to be silenced as the government had no way to control him. All my information comes from a former NOI family I used to know when I was younger, so I might be wrong.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

do some research on malcolm's last days

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

That's not very helpful, yo. Malcolm X left the NOI because the NOI bent the knee, and effectively optics cucked. They censored him for trying to initiate violent retaliation against the LAPD in 1962, and for what he said about JFK. Additionally, Elijah Muhammad had affairs with NOI secretaries, and Malcolm X was right to point out Elijah Muhammad was a grifter. Most importantly, Malcolm X was popular, and could have usurped Elijah Muhammad. This seems like a good reason to have him killed, rather than what you're saying. It's not like his assassination was out of the blue, the feds were aware it was coming, and probably orchestrated it.

Also, collaborating with other races isn't an issue, which Malcolm X did even when he was in the NOI. However, collaborating with the neoliberal establishment is, which Elijah Muhammad did and Louis Farrakhan continues to do. So, what am I missing?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

sad how so many are misinformed on this

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Okay thanks bro

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lesson learned

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Louis Farrakhan continues to do.

Elaborate

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't really believe the Nation of Islam uncucked itself after Elijah. Even the ideology today is very watered down compared to the esoteric teachings that Wallace Fard Muhammad espoused. I think Louis Farrakhan is generally correct, and does call out Jews repeatedly. But ultimately I think he's controlled opposition for the other side, similar to people like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, and the NOI has served in that capacity since the 1960s. I believe this because the NOI does not really accomplish much anymore, and almost always make the news because of Farrakhan's outlandish statements that the media decides the narrative on. This has been the pattern I noticed, however I admit I don't know a lot about the situation in the NOI today.

I have to ask, if rubbing shoulders with scientologists and repeatedly making concessions to Jews after calling them out advances the NOI agenda, what are they doing? I think that blacks have their own pressure release valves, just like we do, except their steam is usually pointed at us (and not Jews, despite what Farrakhan says about them.)

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I believe this because the NOI does not really accomplish much anymore, and almost always make the news because of Farrakhan's outlandish statements that the media decides the narrative on.

This can always just be a result of not having power.

I have to ask, if rubbing shoulders with scientologists

I thought jews hated scientologists. All I've ever heard is bad things about them. I always saw them as basically goys trying to replicate the ingroup mafia/racket type strategy jews have so jews hated them. I don't really know anything about them though, this is just what it looks like on the surface and I watched that Going Clear documentary about them. Redpill me on this ? ? ?

repeatedly making concessions to Jews after calling them out advances the NOI agenda, what are they doing?

What concessions? Is there anything in particular?

I think that blacks have their own pressure release valves, just like we do, except their steam is usually pointed at us (and not Jews, despite what Farrakhan says about them.)

For sure but what specifically has Farrakhan or NOI generally done? Do they shill for the GOP? Do they run cover for jews? Do you have any specific examples of bad shit they've done?

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I thought jews hated scientologists. All I've ever heard is bad things about them. I always saw them as basically goys trying to replicate the ingroup mafia/racket type strategy jews have so jews hated them. I don't really know anything about them though, this is just what it looks like on the surface and I watched that Going Clear documentary about them. Redpill me on this ? ? ?

A group of celebrities learning from their masters are no friends of ours. The Jews hated them enough to give them tax exemption (the IRS tax lawyer was one), and it shouldn't be surprising that with hollywood celebrities in bed with Jews comes tax evasion, forced labor, human trafficking, and sexual abuse. Even the NXIVM cult used Scientology as a defense against their allegations, if you remember when all that was going on. As in, if Scientologists could engage in these activities, NXIVM is legally allowed to as well. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

I'm not accusing you of missing my point, but Scientology is not a third positionist or pro-white religion and does not protect our interests. I believe it's a tax scam for some goy celebrities that comes with the same hidden shames that rich clubs tend to come with. I can not conceive of a reason for why the NOI is establishing Scientologist centers in Ireland. I'd go a step further and say that Malcolm X would have condemned them, the same way Masonry was condemned by Malcom X in his autobiography. I tend to avoid conspiracy theories, but Elijah Muhammad and Louis Farrakhan were allegedly involved in sexual abuse and human trafficking similar to the accusations against Scientology, and Malcolm X's knowledge of this ring was what ultimately killed him. I don't have enough information to substantiate those claims, however, and I'm not claiming they are factual.

What concessions? Is there anything in particular?

Farrakhan at a synagogue in Jamaica in 2002

"A Muslim can not hate a Jew. We are all members of the family of Abraham and all of us should maintain dialogue and mutual respect."

Farrakhan harbors no ill will towards Jews 2020

I do believe Farrakhan panders, and is probably a shock-jock who isn't seriously committed to the Nation of Islam. And, as I've said before, Elijah Muhammad was the same way, which was why Malcolm X left.

For sure but what specifically has Farrakhan or NOI generally done? Do they shill for the GOP? Do they run cover for jews? Do you have any specific examples of bad shit they've done?

Did Louis Farrakhan ever say anything about the NOI convert that rammed a police officer in DC last year? Or any of the white people, police or civilians, killed by blacks on a regular basis? I know a lot of them see the warfare as, to quote Malcolm X, "the chickens coming home to roost". In fact, I'd point out that while there are plenty of people on the dissident right who revere him, that reverence is never reciprocated, is it? Can you find a single reference to Louis Farrakhan reaching out to a dissident figure to sit down and talk? I think the closest you'll get is Alex Jones (lol). I know Richard Spencer, Jared Taylor, and, if I recall, Mike Enoch have reached out to him.

I think this matters because, if Farrakhan is sincere, I think we understand that cooperation between the races will be a prospective way to overthrow the Zionist order we live under. However, if you were that neoliberal order and you controlled a fairly substantial black separatist movement, wouldn't it make sense for that movement to not cooperate with other movements (an issue that Malcolm X had), to demonize and attack primarily whites, and to fundamentally not threaten the Jewish power structure in the country?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Ah, don’t black people from America do just fine?

We have black doctors, nurses. Etc m.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Despite Blacks arriving in the U.S around the same time as Whites did, they have never assimilated into U.S culture.

They have higher rates of crime, higher dropout rates from school, they only vote for one political party.

It's a classic example of how everything MLK Jr preached, was a complete lie.

Desegregation has only caused more misery and suffering, on top of the fact that Blacks literally did nothing with all the welfare and aid that was given to them.

It's also worth pointing out that Blacks have gotten far more aggressive with their anti-white hate.

In the last two years, we've seen multiple attacks on famous statues like George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. They're sending a message they literally want to destroy the country, and white tax payer's money is helping them go along with it.

[–]negrogreBeing black is anti-white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not that I believe you're wrong, but what is your standard for "assimilated into U.S culture"?

Even when you exclude biology, it's absurd to believe that a group that has defined itself as being so thoroughly against whites would be able to assimilate in a country of whites. The race grifters especially know this.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The standard is observing other European immigrants who moved to the U.S and how they quickly integrated.

We don't see a "German Lives Matter" attacking small businesses or claiming the police are systematically racist against them. Same can be said about Swedish immigrants, Irish, Polish, Italian etc.

But with Black Americans, they still see themselves as a separate identity and demand special preferences because of it.

Edit: By the way, here's a clear cut example that Blacks don't want assimilation. All White people are banned from joining their political clubs, even those who might have connections to their community.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus#Non-black_membership

All past and present members of the caucus have been African-American. In 2006, while running for Congress in a Tennessee district which is 60% black, Steve Cohen, who is Jewish, pledged to apply for membership in order to represent his constituents. However, after his election, his application was refused.[36] Although the bylaws of the caucus do not make race a prerequisite for membership, former and current members of the caucus agreed that the group should remain "exclusively black". In response to the decision, Cohen referred to his campaign promise as "a social faux pas" because "It's their caucus and they do things their way. You don't force your way in. You need to be invited."[36] Representative Lacy Clay, a Democrat from Missouri and the son of Representative Bill Clay, a co-founder of the caucus, said: "Mr. Cohen asked for admission, and he got his answer. He is white and the caucus is black. It is time to move on. We have racial policies to pursue and we are pursuing them, as Mr. Cohen has learned. It is an unwritten rule. It is understood." Clay also issued the following statement: Quite simply, Representative Cohen will have to accept what the rest of the country will have to accept—there has been an unofficial Congressional White Caucus for over 200 years, and now it is our turn to say who can join 'the club.' He does not, and cannot, meet the membership criteria unless he can change his skin color. Primarily, we are concerned with the needs and concerns of the black population, and we will not allow white America to infringe on those objectives.[37]

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If they do 'just fine' then why are you telling us and why aren't you telling every corporation, media company and educational institution in America which alleges they're a persecuted minority struggling under a 'white supremacist' system that holds them back?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yea.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

MLK woke up, started poor people's campaign which united races, was promptly shot by FBI

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Can't fix bad genes. All you can do is nothing. They'll breed out. Eventually.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The problem is America still imports millions of new Blacks from Africa every year.

So you'll never "bleach" them out like Brazil did. It would be more like South Africa where the Whites simply get overun by them.

[–]jarcalon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think blacks are at the bottom at all, like other races they are living the way they want.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm going out for fried chicken on MLK day.