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[–]Agni777 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

When you fight a nation, you can at best defeat it one nation. When you govern one, you can make it crumble from the inside. The result ? Many nations that can’t stay together to function under one government.

Let me suggest a few things that could be used to break Japanese civilization.

  1. Create an mythical history that some parts of Japanese population, are actually foreigners who ruled them. Ensure this history is taught in schools, is published in major media and anyone who disagree is immediately deplatformed.

  2. Create a census where everyone irrespective of what they think or know , is forced to choose an ancestor.

  3. Based on this choice some groups are assigned an ancestral heritage either of prosecution of privilege.

  4. The ones that have a history of prosecution get separate representation in all institutes and a quota is created for them.

  5. Ensure that every year academicians are incesntivized to interpret and reinterpret all stories of Japanese glory as a class struggle between different groups.

  6. Create a law of solidarity where crimes against Mythically persecuted groups is specially treated. Undermine all institutes and people using this.

  7. Do this for about than 30 years

Now the division in society will be so great that people will want a foreign power to rule them. They will not be able to agree on anything and no progress on any issue will be made. Successful ambitious individuals will leave the country and the limited pie will force people to infight.

That’s what the process of colonization did. You seem to think that it’s just taxes that were imposed. No it is fault lines that are created, that are deeepend by a colonizer that fracture a society beyond reconciliation. Take a look at Rwanda. The Hutu and Tutsi have a long history of cohabilitation. Neither killed one another en mass. A colonizer rules for 100 years and voila we have genocide.

Japanese society was never subject to that type of infighting. Hence society as a whole could come together to address problems it’s leader saw fit. If instead of forcing the Emoperror to being God, if Americans had created their own emperor equivalent for Japan then maybe you would see the harm. This is what American seems to have done in Iraq after removing Saddam (intentionally or accidentally)

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That’s what the process of colonization did. You seem to think that it’s just taxes that were imposed. No it is fault lines that are created, that are deeepend by a colonizer that fracture a society beyond reconciliation. Take a look at Rwanda. The Hutu and Tutsi have a long history of cohabilitation. Neither killed one another en mass. A colonizer rules for 100 years and voila we have genocide. Japanese society was never subject to that type of infighting.

Before the first White Man stepped into Africa, Africans had practiced slavery and were use to capturing enemy prisoners, and cannibalize them.

I really doubt that everything that occurred on that continent was kumbaya, peace and love. And why? I don't remember Africa creating the United Nations? Or being involved in diplomacy. Or even having the ability to write treaties. These inventions, came from the West, which require a high iq population to generate.

The history of Japan was also full of civil wars. You can read about the Meiji Restoration and the fact there were also foreign nations who got involved and backed rival sides. But even after such meddling, with the next 20 or so years, the Japanese still managed to industrialize quickly, and even beat a very notorious Western power in war (i.e the Russian Empire).

Japanese society was never subject to that type of infighting. Hence society as a whole could come together to address problems it’s leader saw fit. If instead of forcing the Emoperror to being God, if Americans had created their own emperor equivalent for Japan then maybe you would see the harm. This is what American seems to have done in Iraq after removing Saddam (intentionally or accidentally)

If the people really hate being ruled by puppets, they can overthrow them. That was literally how America was founded. "No taxation without representation" was a reference to no Americans being in British parliament, yet they still paid taxes to an overseas country. The U.S went to war, they won, and Britain recognized their existence.

If the Brown nations refuse to do the same or they fail at it, the fault once again lies within themselves. Every problem they brought up, White nations endured the same thing but still found a way to survive.

Spain & Portugal were once invaded and occupied by a Muslim Empire for hundreds of years. They hated this "oppression" and so one day, the Iberians overthrew the Muslims. With Spain & Portugal now liberated, they immediately began exploring the world, and setting up trading posts on different continents. This made them rich, and the money was reinvested to build more powerful armies and navies which helped them conquer every new territory they came across.

[–]Agni777 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I’m not saying everything was peaceful before or that colonizers are the source of everything evil.

But certain social identities of hierarchy were imposed by colonizers. This made their rule a common ally to warring factions. And to that extent, the colonizer is responsible.

In history, Britain is one country that understood the concept of “divide to rule”. I think it’s because if it’s geography and it’s relation to Europe. A united Europe would destroy Britain in no time but as long as there are European divisions, British success is guaranteed.

Its easy to say stuff like “if people don’t like x they can overthrow them”. It’s not that easy in practice. Like I can also say things like “if you don’t democrats and republicans, just overthrow them” but it’s far more difficult to even do something much smaller.

And what you said of Japan proves my point. It was only after the society stopped infighting and started to modernize that it resulted in a stronger nation. If this modernization was overseen by even a Korean colonizer, I doubt it would not create the societal fractures that would create separate nations.

And a lot of Africans countries like Ghana, Ethiopia, had contacts with many Indian rulers. Some African queen seems to have written treaties with pre-Caesar Rome too https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanirenas

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I’m not saying everything was peaceful before or that colonizers are the source of everything evil. But certain social identities of hierarchy were imposed by colonizers. This made their rule a common ally to warring factions. And to that extent, the colonizer is responsible.

The Africans made it a choice to practice those hierarchies now that the colonizers are gone. If they can't figure that out, then it means they're a lost cause.

In history, Britain is one country that understood the concept of “divide to rule”. I think it’s because if it’s geography and it’s relation to Europe. A united Europe would destroy Britain in no time but as long as there are European divisions, British success is guaranteed.

Britain by itself is a still a powerful country. It's not like they haven't fought against a united Europe before (i.e Napoleon or even Hitler).

Regardless, the comparison only proves the enormous differences that exist between the Western world and the non-white one. British people never blamed their failings on what Europe looked like. They played geopolitics well and looked after their own country.

Its easy to say stuff like “if people don’t like x they can overthrow them”. It’s not that easy in practice. Like I can also say things like “if you don’t democrats and republicans, just overthrow them” but it’s far more difficult to even do something much smaller.

The reason Democrats & Republicans have not been immediately ousted is because life in America is still somewhat good. It's not like half the country is starving or dropping dead in the streets. But make a population angry enough and they will demand a new government.

Look at Germany back in the 1920s and 1930s. That's a real example of Europeans suffering from hyperinflation or being unable to buy bread. Yet how did the Germans react? They voted in Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party to fix this, and they did.

[–]Agni777 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And who did Hitler fight ? Brown people ? Not sure if he is a good example either.

I feel I can see what the future of the west and it looks bleak to me. Part of the problem is the assumption of inherent superiority that people seem to have.

I’ll have to leave the discussion here. I tried to make my points but guess have not succeeded. I wish the west well despite the social fractures it now has developed.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And who did Hitler fight ? Brown people ?

Close.

Germany was at war with Jews & Jewish Communists. Electing Hitler saved the German people from becoming a puppet state of Soviet Russia.

Not sure if he is a good example either.

What other man in history was able to reverse a nation's fortune overnight? Germany went from poverty, to hosting the world olympics and building the first highways. That was not an accident. But it requires an extrodinary leader who understood just how important race really is and as a result, the entire world hated Germany for it.

I feel I can see what the future of the west and it looks bleak to me. Part of the problem is the assumption of inherent superiority that people seem to have.

If you really feel this way, then it begs the question of how does more Indian immigration to the West is suppose to help this? Diversity and multiculturalism are having the opposite effect then you intend. Forcing races together = superiority will break out amongst one of them.

I’ll have to leave the discussion here. I tried to make my points but guess have not succeeded. I wish the west well despite the social fractures it now has developed.

Ok then.