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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (44 children)

I see this type of thing in my country and then go out and notice that the city I live in is completely full of Indians, Muslims, Africans and Asians and think to myself where was this passion and zeal when your government gave away the country? We didn't stand up as this was happening but you're lighting yourself on fire like some Tibetan monk during the Vietnam war over a shitty vaccine?

I just can't get my head around the whole thing.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They didn't utilize doom merchants back then, they just recently discovered that fear-politics works to keep people in check AND it's very profitable business (not to say there weren't fearmongerers in the past, it's just that internet has allowed fear-consumers to be participants in their own doom instead of mere observers).

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (40 children)

Because they've been brainwashed into believing we're living in the end times, and nothing else in life should matter.

Anyone who was around in 1999 should remember the Y2K hysteria, and how there were even cults created to commit mass suicide. Now we're seeing the same stuff with the Covid conspiracies.

[–]TheJamesRocket 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Because they've been brainwashed into believing we're living in the end times, and nothing else in life should matter.

Anyone who was around in 1999 should remember the Y2K hysteria, and how there were even cults created to commit mass suicide. Now we're seeing the same stuff with the Covid conspiracies.

Your words apply even more strongly to the branch covidians who supported the mass lockdowns out of misplaced fear, in spite of the fact that they did NOTHING to slow the spread of the virus, and resulted in mass psychological trauma due to social isolation (and an increase in deaths of despair). They also supported the mass vaccinations that have killed tens of thousands in the U.S. alone, including CHILDREN who aren't even at risk from the virus.

Do not operate under the illusion that the pro vaxxers are not a doomsday cult based on irrational fears. They have shown a clear willingness to agree to any misplaced government scheme to 'end the pandemic' and 'get back to normal.' They are the reason why this crisis has stretched on for 2 years now. If they had stood up with the vaccine skeptics and rejected the fraudulent pandemic, we would have been through this long ago.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

2020: I didn't see any mass deaths from the first vaccines

2021: I didn't see any mass deaths from vaccines now that they're out globally

But 2022 is suppose to be different this time, right?

If they had stood up with the vaccine skeptics and rejected the fraudulent pandemic, we would have been through this long ago.

We tried that in 2020. In fact, every government around the world had downplayed the events in China and said that banning air travel is "racist". Well, you got your wish and the world has been lockdown ever since...

Maybe next time, don't drink the libertarian kool-aid and understand it's perfectly acceptable to stop infected travelers from boarding airplanes.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

2020: I didn't see any mass deaths from the first vaccines

How many people were vaccinated in 2020? The numbers must have been quite small, since the major rollout didn't happen until 2021.

2021: I didn't see any mass deaths from vaccines now that they're out globally

You didn't see any mass deaths? What, are you blind? The VAERS database by the CDC records 19,249 deaths and 30,967 permanent disabilitys from the covid vaccine (as of 11/29/2021). So just in the U.S. alone, there have been more deaths from these vaccines than from all other vaccines COMBINED.

And again, thats just according to official estimates. If you consider the fact that VAERS accounts for only 1% of vaccine injuries, then the true death toll could be much higher.

But 2022 is suppose to be different this time, right?

We've already established that there were mass deaths in 2021, even if you just focus on the U.S. alone (rather than all countrys where the vaccination campaign is underway). So your qualifier about 'different' is suspect.

Another year is going to roll by and I bet you're going to look foolish again.

The only fool here is you, ignoring tens of thousands of deaths from the vaccines, and arguing for the vaccination campaign to continue on.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Nope, sorry dude but it's nothing but moving goal posts with you.

"It didn't count in 2020 because the numbers were too small!"

"But somehow I can predict with 100% accuracy that it's going to kill more people in the future!"

By the way, I also know you love spouting VAERS like it's gospel, but my own country produced a year long report and found only 8 people had reportedly died of vaccination and even the conditions are still subjective (i.e the majority of the 8 people were senior citizens who had suffered another illness at the time). In a province of 14.57 million people, that's absolutely nothing.

There are eight reports of death temporally associated with receipt of COVID-19 vaccine that met the provincial surveillance definition. Reports of death that meet the provincial case definition are events temporally associated with vaccine that have not been clearly attributed to other causes; these reports should not be interpreted as causally related with vaccine. The reports of deaths are as follows:

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/epi/covid-19-aefi-report.pdf?sc_lang=en

Once again, it's the exact same Y2K paranoia and schizo posting on repeat.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Nope, sorry dude but it's nothing but moving goal posts with you.

How about no?

"It didn't count in 2020 because the numbers were too small!"

You were asked a direct question: How many people were vaccinated in 2020? If there were not millions of people being vaccinated at that time (which there weren't), then we would not expect to see mass deaths. Especially not when you consider that vaccinations didn't even begin until December 2020! Your argument is complete horseshit.

"But somehow I can predict with 100% accuracy that it's going to kill more people in the future!"

Based on the number of people who have been injured and killed by the vaccines, its not unrealistic to expect that there will be more deaths in 2022. And who the fuck said anything about predicting it with 100% accuracy? You can shove that strawman right up your ass.

By the way, I also know you love spouting VAERS like it's gospel

Hmm, what do we have here? Looks like someone is trying to 'shift the goalposts', and ignore data that contradicts their story. Tens of thousands of injurys and deaths from the vaccines really don't do you any favours.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

If there were not millions of people being vaccinated at that time (which there weren't), then we would not expect to see mass deaths.

Except the vaccines did not just appear out of thin air. There where in fact many trials conducted before December 2020, including those who had already been given a second dose.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine

But once again, antivax never did their research and just clung to shitty buzzwords and bad anecdotes.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

To repeat:

You were asked a direct question: How many people were vaccinated in 2020?

Answer this question.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No use trying to debate this schill. Instead, encourage him to get boosted!

Radicalcentrist, have you had your booster and if not, why?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's not a question, that's manipulation for not having any evidence the vaccines were based on killing everyone in mass.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

2020: I didn't see any mass deaths from the first vaccines

2021: I didn't see any mass deaths from vaccines now that they're out globally

Here's a small sample from a group that should be the healthiest alive.

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/

In b4, "Debooonked!"

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The Tokyo Olympics, the world's biggest gathering of athletes, literally happened last year.

Why didn't they all just die back then? Oh right, more dumb excuses.

I also lol'd at this paragraph from the website.

Readers are writing to us asking for comparisons from previous years. Some say without that, these results mean nothing. That’s not true because if we had seen this in previous years, it would be well known and others would have documented it. We are starting to work on this – it is a lot of work.

They made an article without actually doing real research? Color me surprised.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If it was normal for 100s of athletes to drop dead while playing then there would be data. It's actually a pretty easy thing to search. Only a schill or a retard would pick out that sentence and use it to try and discredit the presentation. Go ahead and use daddy Google to find the answer.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

And there is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing

Oh shit, looks like Bill Gates was using 5G nanomachine vaccines in the 1800s! Better bring out the tinfoil.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

wikipedia.org

reply disregarded

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Facts don't care about your feelings.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Y2K hysteria

Give me a break. This doesn't even compare. Very few people were concerned about Y2K. Apples to oranges.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Give me a break. This doesn't even compare. Very few people were concerned about Y2K. Apples to oranges.

People genuinely thought the world was going to end. Whether it was airplanes falling from the sky, or random nuclear weapons being fired.

The paranoia was absolutely real, and it's been documented.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/20-years-later-a-y2k-skeptic-reflects-on-millennium-hysteria-1.5412100

But like all end of the world prophecies, they never thought ahead and imagined life could continue after 1999.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

A few retards on the news broadcasted fear-porn which, just about everyone with a brain ignored. Normal people didn't give a shit about Y2K.

Compare that with today--EVERY tv station in the world broadcasted covid fear-porn. Because the population was so gaslit from decades of bullshit from the media/DARPA the fear-porn finally worked.

People with working brains knew that covid was a psi-op from the start. That's why we don't trust the experimental gene-therapy. Why does the world need an experimental gene-therapy to cure a cold? Fun fact--it doesn't. 100% fucking psi-op and the midwits fell for it.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

And normal people don't care about the antivax crap.

Ever since mandates went up, the majority still continue to work. Only an absolute fringe had autistic meltdowns and went home.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The numbers of supposedly vaxxed that you see on the news are totally bullshit. The vast-majority of people I know won't take it and they're all still working because their jobs can't afford to fire them. Even the few people I know who took the vaxx are 100% disgusted with the idea of a booster and then potentially annual boosters forever. It's all a psi-op and even normies are starting to see it.

Only retards:

1) fear covid

2) get vaxxed

3) believe that a BIG-PHARMA and MEGA-CORPS have their best interests in mind

4) believe the government has their best interests in mind

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That doesn't make any sense. Do you live in every city in America or the world? There are mandates required for public service like the Army that can't be refused without being fired.

3) believe that a BIG-PHARMA and MEGA-CORPS have their best interests in mind 4) believe the government has their best interests in mind

And I believe the opposite to be true as well. These people are grifters who want to sell you their own products or force people into hurting themselves, like consuming horse paste as a miracle drug.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

These people are grifters who want to sell you their own products or force people into hurting themselves, like consuming horse paste as a miracle drug.

The difference is that Ivermectin costs pennies per dose while the shit the government is buying from these companies costs $15-$20 per shot and the other treatments such as monoclonal antibodies and the new pfizermectin (a shittier version of Ivermectin) cost $1000s.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

$15 a shot is a discount, as opposed to paying for a lifetime of keeping someone in ICU after eating horse paste.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dude. A recent report from an insurance executive show deaths between 18-64 year olds up 40%

https://archive.is/Bk7PI

How do you explain that away?

Or did you fall for the 'science'

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How do you explain that away?

First of all, I still wouldn't panic. Are the numbers higher than the total deaths from WW2? If the answer is "no", than we're far from the apocalypse.

As for an explanation, I don't claim to be a morbidity expert, but I would still look at overall infrastructure and quality of life first before making any sweeping generalizations. For example, it's obvious that mortality is higher in the third world than the first world. Why? Dysfunctional governments, who let civil war rip through their nations, which leads to a collapse in medical services or not enough food being distributed equally to prevent deaths.

Ironically, as a Nationalist, I am in favor of promoting a stronger government that is tasked with lowering population mortality. That's kinda the whole point of why I support closing down airports and asking people to be vaccinated. It's being done because the alternative of having no rules is chaos.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

but you're lighting yourself on fire like some Tibetan monk during the Vietnam war over a shitty vaccine?

Nobody will ever know this guys reasons for setting himself on fire. But its a fair bet that it had something to do with him finding out the entire pandemic was a complete scam that was organised on behalf of the WEF in a global conspiracy. Or maybe it was him finding out that the vaccines have killed tens of thousands of people in the U.S. alone, and will potentially kill many more in the years to come. Or that absolutely no one in any position of power is doing anything to stop this.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why did the whole world including China, Russia, Syria, and Iran participate in this global scam?