Rosenbergs prediction about Americas future

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

in a few centuries, will go the way of Greece and Rome

Greece and Rome didn't undergo any genetic transformation. Italians today are more or less identical to the Romans of the past. Greece was in fact fully Greek and under the domination of more northern(Alexander was blonde for example) Macedonians when it faced Rome. Rome conquered.

Rome went multicultural but survived in large part because it was for the most part a European enterprise and it had good values.

Yes, the values thing has been made cringe by modern conservatives but Rome's success and longevity was owed in great part to its great values. Its warrior ethos, its sense of honor and justice, its stoicism and resilience in the face of adversity, and so on. Rome was also quite meritocratic. It's why its multicultural experiment succeeded for such a long time.

Romans cherished excellence and it allowed talented non-Italian men to rise through the ranks. Rome was on the brink of collapse during the crisis of the third century and was only saved due to the leadership of three Danubian warrior-emperors:

  1. Gallienus: Who fought off dozens of invasions and pretenders and was acclaimed Germanicus Maximus.

  2. Claudius: Who defeated the Goths and was immortalized as Claudius Gothicus.

  3. Aurelian: He was arguably Rome's greatest hero and greatest emperor. His accomplishments are too great to list here. He was acclaimed by the senate as RESTITVTOR ORBIS- the restorer of the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUyPjwqNRQA&t=324s

Constantine the great was also Illyrian.

America today has the opposite values. It loathes meritocracy and worships weakness and wretchedness.

If you are beautiful, rich, or healthy, you are privileged and thus evil. You must feel ashamed. The more pathetic you are, the more moral you are. Blacks, homosexuals, trannies...the lowest elements are the object of worship.

Wretchedness imparts upon one a sense of...divinity. This only encourages more pathetic behavior. One only needs to see the deluge of ''mental trauma'' on social media to see this.

Now we see drives to eliminate meritocratic recruitment in the military, academia, government, and practically all spheres in life.

Such actions only accelerate the end of the United States.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Hitler foolishly declared war on USA after pearl harbor. He thought since USA had so many black people they were weak and not a threat. It's true that weakened them but not so much that their millions of white men were easily defeated. Of course all these decades later it's different so maybe Rosenberg's prediction comes true, but I think that kind of wrong thinking led him to his views back then.

No empire lasts forever so saying USA will collapse "in a few centuries" is easy to say.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Hitler foolishly declared war on USA after pearl harbor. He thought since USA had so many black people they were weak and not a threat

Hitler declared war on the USA because his Admirals begged him to and the USA was performing hostile naval actions in the North Atlantic. You're just spouting nonsense. It had nothing to do with any racial theories they simply needed to legally counter the actions of the American navy and obviously had no intentions of actually invading the North American continent or even considered what those naval operations had to do with the amount of Blacks in America.

Where do you people get this shit?

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actually his "admirals" and generals were surprised he did it

He was drunk with power, it was beginning of his downfall, lot of wrong moves, another was invading russia in winter.

Most americans were against war with germany, it would be hard for FDR to get them into it, maybe they'd allow another false flag like perarl harbor but Hitler made it easy on them. Once germany declared war on USA of course most americans would agree it was ok to go to war with them.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No empire lasts forever so saying USA will collapse "in a few centuries" is easy to say.

Its already been 75 years since Rosenberg wrote his memoirs. The U.S. isn't even going to exist in its current form 25 years from now. How can you possibly believe the path it is on will result in anything other than ruin?

another was invading russia in winter.

Thats just a silly myth. The Germans invaded Russia in June 1941, the middle of summer. Winter didn't arrive until November, when they were at the gates of Moscow.