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[–]TheJamesRocket 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The Russians would have captured Constantinople in 1878 if the British hadn't intervened. They were clearly winning the war against the Turks before that.

Imagine how much better the world would be if the Ottoman empire had collapsed 40 years earlier?

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The middle east would be a far less Islamic and Semitic place. Turkey would've been carved up entirely. Western Anatolia going to Greece, the east going to Armenia, and the Pontic coast taken over by Russia. There would be thrice or four times the number of Greeks and Armenians without the genocides and far fewer Turks as they'd have little land to squat in.

Unfortunately for Europe, the country named Britain existed at the time.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I do wonder how many Turkish people are actually mostly Turk. Possibly after they invaded they just counted most people who were Muslims as Turks, like what happened in the Balkans with ethnicity being labelled along religious lines more than ancestry.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Turks had a long-winded strategy of genetic improvement by kidnapping white girls or encouraging or even forcing men of value to "become Turks", which basically meant to become muslims. Those who didn't accept the deal were executed, often by torture. Not to mention their systematic children grabbing.

They never included gypsy children in their scope, as they considered them low value.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The eternal Anglo has been a disaster for the European race.

[–]VraiBleulibro e moschetto – fascista perfetto 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Conveniently ignoring that the French were also responsible for forcing the Russians to the table, just like they had 20 years before, and again 100 years before that…

The ‘let’s blame all our own failings on the Anglos’ meme also ignores Spanish kingdoms whoring themselves out to Moors & Jews for short term gain, Romanian, Austrian & Hungarians doing the same with the Turks, Russians for the tartars, Balkan families literally selling their own children for social advancement… But whatever helps you guys feel like victims i guess 🤷‍♂️

[–]TrabWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yup, daily reminder France and Britain sent troops to ensure Muslims could still subjugate European Christians Edit: France

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Almost entirely Britain.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

British played the main role, and in 1922 practically ordered the Greek government to hand over Constantinoupolis and Eastern Thrace to the Turks. However, the main force behind this was France who demanded that Turkey should be rewarded for being a friend of France. Italy played a role as well.

Some outline of the events is at

The main act of genocide in Asia Minor was orchestrated by the Germans, who sent their military advisors to suggest that Turks systematically genocide the Christian population. Which is why Hitler admired Kemal so much and tried to do the same against Poland. The man who organized the genocide was the Jewish-German Liman von Sanders

The British continued to play a similar role during after WWII as well. They funded the communists and orchestrated the Greek Civil War so that Greece wouldn't have the opportunity to demand the liberation of Cyprus. Finally, they preferred to bring Turkey into Cyprus than having Greece have it.

The whole British involvement in the massacres of Greek Civil War by the communists has been documented in this book