Should we retake Constantinople?

submitted by EthnocratArcheofuturist from (self.debatealtright)

I bet this is one of the biggest dreams within our movement. I for one am 100% in favor of it. If Europe is ever united behind an identitarian project it should do everything possible to retake it. Europeans should not rest until it's ours again. Thoughts?

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm of the opposite opinion. I think we should turn inward and create small pro white communities in our own nations. Parallel economies are part of this movement. As our nations continue to erode we will need a refuge for ourselves and for whites escaping the chaos. A refuge with it's own finance, it's own religion, it's own laws and it's own goals.

There is very little outlet for people that are waking up to white racial consciousness. This needs addressed immediately. At this point in time white imperialism is a pipe dream. How can whites expand and 'retake' old ground when we are losing the ground we currently occupy? Who will support a 'retake' of Constantinople when most whites don't even see the world from a racial perspective? I'm not totally opposed to a long term project where whites have more of an international governing presence. It's in our genetics to push out, explore, conquer, discover and fight. As the world shrinks from technology, finance and advancing methods of transportation all isolated communities will be threatened more and more. I think this is a big reason Germany lost both wars. Blood and soil mindset combined with a strong sense of respect for other nationalities led them to avoid colonizing. The countries that took the opposite approach ended up defeating the Germans. Look how being the good guy paid off. Today Germany is accused by Jews and those that would push CRT as being 'evil colonizers'. Nothing is further from the truth. We should not make that mistake twice. We should not allow a morality we apply to our nation and racial family be applied to non whites; especially those that would do us harm.

If we don't quickly redevelop a sense of racial unity and racial defense we will cease to exist as a people.

[–]Node 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How many of us are still even 'we'? The reasons for the ongoing loss of racial unity and identity have to be addressed or the numbers of 'we' will continue shrinking. The main problem is the vast majority of humans of any race are easy to manipulate, so 'most people' simply accept the society and mental programming they're presented with.

When your enemy has control of the programming mechanisms (media, education, government, etc) your position is a loser. Their control has to be disrupted or removed to have a chance of replacing their brainwashing propaganda.

[–]Nasser 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But Germany did colonize Namibia,Tanzania and Cameroon. The reason they didn't colonize to the extent of others was the country didn't unify until 1871 and the lack of a navy and coast line.

[–]TheJamesRocket 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The Russians would have captured Constantinople in 1878 if the British hadn't intervened. They were clearly winning the war against the Turks before that.

Imagine how much better the world would be if the Ottoman empire had collapsed 40 years earlier?

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The middle east would be a far less Islamic and Semitic place. Turkey would've been carved up entirely. Western Anatolia going to Greece, the east going to Armenia, and the Pontic coast taken over by Russia. There would be thrice or four times the number of Greeks and Armenians without the genocides and far fewer Turks as they'd have little land to squat in.

Unfortunately for Europe, the country named Britain existed at the time.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I do wonder how many Turkish people are actually mostly Turk. Possibly after they invaded they just counted most people who were Muslims as Turks, like what happened in the Balkans with ethnicity being labelled along religious lines more than ancestry.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Turks had a long-winded strategy of genetic improvement by kidnapping white girls or encouraging or even forcing men of value to "become Turks", which basically meant to become muslims. Those who didn't accept the deal were executed, often by torture. Not to mention their systematic children grabbing.

They never included gypsy children in their scope, as they considered them low value.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The eternal Anglo has been a disaster for the European race.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Conveniently ignoring that the French were also responsible for forcing the Russians to the table, just like they had 20 years before, and again 100 years before that…

The ‘let’s blame all our own failings on the Anglos’ meme also ignores Spanish kingdoms whoring themselves out to Moors & Jews for short term gain, Romanian, Austrian & Hungarians doing the same with the Turks, Russians for the tartars, Balkan families literally selling their own children for social advancement… But whatever helps you guys feel like victims i guess 🤷‍♂️

[–]TrabWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yup, daily reminder France and Britain sent troops to ensure Muslims could still subjugate European Christians Edit: France

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Almost entirely Britain.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

British played the main role, and in 1922 practically ordered the Greek government to hand over Constantinoupolis and Eastern Thrace to the Turks. However, the main force behind this was France who demanded that Turkey should be rewarded for being a friend of France. Italy played a role as well.

Some outline of the events is at http://www.greek-genocide.net/index.php/overview/documentation/130-eastern-thrace

The main act of genocide in Asia Minor was orchestrated by the Germans, who sent their military advisors to suggest that Turks systematically genocide the Christian population. Which is why Hitler admired Kemal so much and tried to do the same against Poland. The man who organized the genocide was the Jewish-German Liman von Sanders

The British continued to play a similar role during after WWII as well. They funded the communists and orchestrated the Greek Civil War so that Greece wouldn't have the opportunity to demand the liberation of Cyprus. Finally, they preferred to bring Turkey into Cyprus than having Greece have it.

The whole British involvement in the massacres of Greek Civil War by the communists has been documented in this book

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, but afterward, Hagia Sophia should be converted into a temple dedicated to Jupiter or Zeus and the name should be changed from Constantinopole to Aurelianum.

Constantine doomed Rome by plaguing it with Christianity. Aurelian saved Rome from certain collapse and was acclaimed by the senate as RESTITVTOR ORBIS- The restorer of the world.

He saved Classical civilization. It's only fair that his name heralds its rebirth.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Immeasurably based. Hail Zeus!

[–]GraviBalts 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Deus Vult!

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

who cares about that

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Absolutely, it was a Greek city before Turks conquered it. They mock us even today by bringing up Istanbul (because they will never call it Constantinople). Let's retake it and name it Constantinople to mock the snackbars.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's kinda ironic, considering Greeks coined the name "Istanbul" in the first place.

[–]Nasser 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's overwhelmingly Turk/Muslim now, I'd be more in favor of securing the border against immigration.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That border is the Bosporus.

[–]Nasser 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Don't care, fortify the Greek and Bulgarian border.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why don't we just retake Constantinople if we can?

[–]Nasser 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because it isn't necessary, there are millions of Turks/Muslims who live there. I don't want to forcefully move them out.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They would do it to us without hesitation.

[–]Nasser 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well we should be able to defend ourselves from that and no the average Turk does not want war.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Too many snackbars. Might as well add Syria and Somalia to the list if you're looking for enrichment.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We can kick them out after conquering Constantinople.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Syria also belongs to us.

t. Roman gang

[–]Dashing-Dove 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If Europe is willing to go to the same lengths against Turks that Armenians likely would, following a successful invasion. Reclaiming territory and then leaving it occupied by enemies would be costly beyond belief, benefiting neither side. Better leave it to them undisturbed than wage a war and refuse to follow through, or foolishly attempt integration with such a wide religious and ethnic divide.

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    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Fuck off libtard.

    [–]yabbit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Lol while chad is creampieing your oneitis you'll be getting ass raped in a Turkish prison fucking autism kek

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    saiditter for 4 days