Irish Senator Wants Unjabbed Banned From Supermarkets

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

So you're looking forward to jabbing every season?

There are new flu shots every year. Once again, it really shows how low IQ you guys are if you thought medicine was never suppose to evolve.

Start camping out in Africa or Detroit if you prefer to get your treatment via Witchdoctor instead.

[–]proc0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Never had a flu shot. Never will. And I did get the flu a few years ago, and I wasn't impressed.

You're siding with the people that see you and your health as a source for profit. The medical industry exist because of sick people, and they make profit from it, so their incentive to grow is to keep people sick. This might vary from country to country, but it's true in America.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

We live in a Capitalist society, and for better or for worse, it means certain things can be made better.

For example, here in Canada, medicine is socialized and it's nice that (in theory) we don't have to pay for it. But if I have an accident and break a body part, I would still be better off paying the extra money and getting treated in the USA for it.

That's just how life is. People will do whatever is necessary to survive. The alternatives to this system have their own flaws so nothing is perfect.

[–]proc0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Nothing wrong with that in theory. The problem is large corporations taking advantage, and exploiting the system, especially when they collude with government, and even more so when that corporation is meant to treat people's health.

So this isn't about capitalism as much as corrupt systems going unchecked, first by the government (which have now apparently sided with them) and then by the people who seem to have been completely gaslighted into "believing the science" without questioning it. Science is not meant to be dogmatic, but that's where we're at.

Authorities have leveraged the fear of an emergency in order to get people to comply, and at the end of the day, that is the real danger. Once the infrastructure is built to check everyone's health records, I can bet a lot on government using that for other purposes. By then it will be too late to push back and even if the masses wake up to it, the system has already been rolled out.

If I'm wrong, then there will be no problem with some people remaining outside of this system... since power and control is not the end goal... but the rhetoric and actions so far is not pointing in that direction.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

It's one thing to question authority and be skeptical, and then there's just being paranoid.

And much of the anti-vax/covid skeptics fall into that last category. Especially when the theories run into circles and contradict each other.

A good conspiracy theory is one that makes sense and can actually make the Elites afraid. But when said virus can be caught by anyone (Elites included), then me and millions of other people are not convinced there is actually some global takeover coming in the form of a 5 minute jab...

[–]proc0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And much of the anti-vax/covid skeptics fall into that last category. Especially when the theories run into circles and contradict each other.

How would you know this though? The nature of conspiracies is secretive, which means it is not clear where the line of fact and paranoia really is, but this doesn't mean it is entirely false.

then me and millions of other people are not convinced there is actually some global takeover coming in the form of a 5 minute jab...

Yes, it is extremely unlikely, however nobody would have believed the lockdowns in 2019, and no one was thinking they would push 100% jabs in 2020. There has been a clear ramp up, and while this could be just a coincidence, it simply points at the fact that what we think is not possible right now might very well be the actual future that awaits us.

A good conspiracy theory is one that makes sense and can actually make the Elites afraid.

If they weren't afraid there would be no threat of punishing those who don't comply. Governments don't care about so many other problems that have killed way more than this virus, and it's very suspicious to me that all of sudden they care so much and are trying to look like only they can solve this. My only concern is really the power grab.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

How would you know this though? The nature of conspiracies is secretive, which means it is not clear where the line of fact and paranoia really is, but this doesn't mean it is entirely false.

It's very simple. Why does a conspiracy like white genocide garner more attention and censorship then some random wacko who thinks the secret to world domination is hidden in a plastic needle?

Because only one conspiracy has merit and can change political landscapes.

In fact, funny story. In my country, there was actually a political party that ran on antivax. You would think the media would try and cut him out but truth be told, no one paid the antivax party any mind. But if someone ran as a White nationalist or anti-immigration, that's only when the knives came out.

50 years from now, no one is going to give a shit about Covid, and turning it into a platform will just get laughed at by everyone.

[–]proc0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, that's not a bad approach but it seems to bet on the wisdom of the crowd so to speak, whereas I'm not trusting the wisdom of the crowd anymore. Everybody was surprised two years ago with all of this, not just the breakout of the virus, but also the response to it, and if you're in America, it was absolutely used politically to hurt Trump's chances of winning the 2020 election (not saying it was planned as such, but was definitely taken advantage which is expected). So, there are many reasons for me to think most people could be in for a surprise, whether or not it's a conspiracy or just the natural tendency of people in power to become corrupt. I hope you're right and nothing will happen.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think there are conspiracies that absolutely revolve around the Covid pandemic. For example, it's not an open secret that the lockdown did make the rich richer, and the poor poorer. I don't dispute that.

Those are things that absolutely deserve attention and threatens the political atmosphere.

But the people who block highways or hospital doors claiming the virus and everything about it is fake? They just look like idiots.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even I have had colds, and I caught the flu about 7 years ago. If I'm going to take poisons, I want them to have some kind of enjoyable effect, and not just free up the space I occupy.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And much of the anti-vax/covid skeptics fall into that last category. Especially when the theories run into circles and contradict each other.

The belief that all theories posted on the internet come from legitimate theorists is pretty useful to the cabal.