Swedish scientists prosecuted for finding that most rapes are committed by immigrants

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[–]Foidblaster9000 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Contrary to your extremely narrow minded belief, people have the capacity to be terrible without being included in the 1%. If you're taking more in benefits than you put out, your presence is a net loss and a burden. If someone make demands to cater to their beliefs or culture when entering nations foreign to them, especially when most of those cultural norms are damaging to others or centric to their people instead of expecting basic respect, they're a burden. Humanitarian crisis in most of these instances are manufactured, not really the need, but who is helped. Real world solutions are leaving them alone to fuck up their own nations

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You'd have to be much more specific. Generalizations like this are uninformative. Consider the motivations, what is to gain, the history, and the rest of it. Don't jsut assume that the people you don't agree with can be insulted with generalities like this. It doesn't work.

[–]Foidblaster9000 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

What do I need to be more specific about? There's nothing to gain by any country taking in people that do more harm than good to not only the culture there, but the people and the economy.

You're making a mistake that I'm assuming anything. I observed and gave a critical opinion on what I see of your views. If you're going to consider that a personal insult or attack, you should consider discussing topics of this nature with people that exclusively share your opinions and won't criticize you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's nothing to gain by any country taking in people that do more harm than good to not only the culture there, but the people and the economy.

It generally doesn't happen (because most people aren't assholes).

If you really want to understand what's happening: look at the big picture. The 'haves' have always exploited the 'have nots'. Wake up and smell the economy.

[–]Foidblaster9000 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

No fucking shit. But that's not just the 1%. That's several people under the guise that this system benefits their shitty businesses in some way, meanwhile they're still getting the table scraps compared to multi-national business entities. It's a system that attempts to convince those businesses that cheap labor is great, and they can make tons of profit, meanwhile the communities suffer because not all of those people work and many are just going to take advantage of systems in place and damage the structural integrity of the economic systems put in place with the smaller native population in mind. That's not even accounting for the crimes and cultural destruction that happen as a result. It's a hierarchy of greed with a mask of altruism and tolerance that exploits the host country and attempts to violate the human rights of immigrants by using them as a source. That doesn't mean that it's right, and that people of these host countries should accept it.

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We actually agree on this.

One of the few so-called right-wing/non-centrist issues I agree with is a stricter immigration policy and better boarder security, because the lack of these can lead to increased crime rates (but this is not a comment on race or ethnicity). Much of the right-wing 1% want to get votes by speaking against immigration, but instead support it, because their corporate and farming doners want them to support immigration, and especially allow for illegal immigration, which is cheaper labour, on a seasonal basis. Neo-Liberals support immigration without lying about their support. I don't support liberal policies on immigration, not in the least. My main arguments at DAR tend to be against racist comments and unfounded claims.