Are there any working-class alt-righters?

submitted by NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! from (self.debatealtright)

Something I have noticed about the alt-right (including all the offshoots like "groypers" and so on) is the near total lack of the working class within it's ranks. It seems to be composed overwhelmingly of college-educated, upper middle class types. This is a noticeable difference from "WN 1.0" - the traditional white nationalist groups like the KKK, Aryan Nation, Creativity Movement, and skinheads. Those groups all seemed to be largely working class. Even the National Alliance which was supposed to have a more bourgeois profile, had to make overtures to the white working class if it wanted to gain new members.

I think Andrew Anglin even posted something a few years ago about how almost all the young alt-righters are middle class whereas the boomer white nationalists were mostly working class. He said that as if it was a good thing. I haven't seen any alt right groups that have ever made a serious effort to recruit or appeal to the working class at all. Many seem downright hostile to the idea.

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Who do you think the faggot middle class kids are calling wiggers for not dressing like corporate cock suckers? That's the working class

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada![S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you mean Nick Fuentes he calls anyone who criticizes him a "wignat". He calls Richard Spencer a "wignat" and Spencer isn't working class at all. "Wignat" is just an insult used by civic nationalists and migatards.

I guess the TWP was working class or made a serious effort to be, it was more like a traditional white nationalist group though. They actually got called out a lot on "bad optics" for associating with skinheads and the like. But they don't exist anymore.

[–]shilldetector 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't seen any alt right groups that have ever made a serious effort to recruit or appeal to the working class at all.

The movement inherently appeals to white working class for reasons which should be obvious. I mean they would be the prime beneficiaries of it and are currently the group most harmed by the Jewish led anti white discrimination the alt right or any white populist movement counters.

As for recruiting. How can you recruit when the Jewish power structure in this country completely controls all means of mass communication, owns and vets all your politicians and the bureaucrats they appoint, has a level of wealth that is unprecedented in human history, and uses all the tools at their disposal to completely censor and attack any explicitly white populist movement. You literally cannot even post that it's ok to be white without Jewish power coming after you, to include attempting actual law enforcement investigation and legal prosecution of you. Think about that. You cannot protest or publicly organize without Jewish incited (and in some cases paid)thugs physically attacking you with impunity, and if you defend yourself you will have the full weight of Jewish legal power come down on you like a ton of bricks(as recent court cases have demonstrated).

I dont think people understand the extent to which we are currently living in an ever expanding Jewish authoritarian state disguised as a democracy now.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If we controlled any media institutions there would be many millions. Fox News serves to neutralize these people. Out of their own volition, they arent going to seek out dissident or complicated ideologies and instead just accept what theyre given on TV (as a general rule)

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes lol… Nationalist parties across the world are popular with working class voters which almost always form their main support base. In Europe I can tell you that any blue-color person you meet will be nationalistic on some level whereas the opposite is true for the bourgeoisie. So I’m not really seeing the change you describe?

Maybe you’re just seeing a generational/aesthetic shift? Working class people my age never worked in factories or mines like our families did for centuries up till the 1980’s. Most folk live pretty similar lifestyles these days at some form of service job, so the lines get a bit blurry. Especially for Americans where class distinctions were already weaker.

We definitely did get a boost of intellectual/young professional types post 2016 which was very welcome.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unfortunately, most of the support base is working class. They're good people but they're not that big an asset.

DR needs more Jared Taylor and K Mac types and less parrott-Heimbach and Fuentes types

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm a working class nationalist. Most of us are busy and don't spend time going to rallies or posting on the internet. I have no animosity towards those that have the free time of course, in fact I am somewhat envious. My opinion is that any third positionist movement requires a middle class backbone, and you can not build a revolutionary movement off of working class whites. I support third positionist movements, but I accept we will always be politically secondary.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just my opinion, but I dislike the idea that everything must sanitized and made for mass consumption. In fact, that's what mainstream Liberalism & Conservatism are. And look at what they've done to society for catering to everyone...

Stop focusing on class lines, and in fact, worry more about cohesion and spreading the truth about white replacement. Talking about this subject is already taboo, so what difference does it make if some poor factory worker or ultra rich cosmopolitan feels left out? The problem will always be who is controlling society right now.

In my perfect world, I'm actually against the idea of making everyone feel comfortable. There will always be higher IQ Men at the top, who knows what's best for the dumber people at the bottom. But unlike Jews, I obviously want an Elite class that aren't hostile to Whites.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm actually against the idea of making everyone feel comfortable. There will always be higher IQ Men at the top, who knows what's best for the dumber people at the bottom.

Yes 👍🏻 this is the correct Fascist position. Buuuuut that hierarchy has to be as meritocratic as possible and can’t be based on rich daddies handing down their jobs over generations to undeserving spoilt sons, even if they’re White. If you want a strong, unified nation the working class has to be treated fairly, they’re the backbone of the nation after all.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they're busy working, they don't pay attention to politics besides maybe watching foxnews and voting repub when the time comes

[–]TrabWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

White Working Class is almost exclusively right-wing now

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The working class too often lacks the education to understand things and gets easily attracted by the communist promise of a paradise for workers. Of course we know it doesn't work like that, but for someone who lacks the education and the intelligence to think otherwise it sounds more attractive than a future where everyone will be respected for his role. Communism promises the working class that they will rule above all instead.

Things may be different in other places but this is the reality here.