Heart attacks in young people on the rise in India, the US, and Israel

submitted by casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter from (self.debatealtright)

https://www.science.org/content/article/israel-reports-link-between-rare-cases-heart-inflammation-and-covid-19-vaccination

https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/health/heart-attack-young-age-group-causes-sedentary-lifestyle-mental-stress-7484512/

Everything will be blamed except the holy vax.

Fauci meanwhile is said that within a year, the vax will be approved for babies and toddlers.

Is this the end?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (52 children)

Is this the end?

So why didn't people show the same concern last year when Covid already killed millions, but deniers claimed it was a myth and there was no need for masking/social distancing?

That's why I find all this anti-vax shit retarded. If you really cared about health, you have to go back to where this all started.

Even the idea of a killer vax doesn't match up with reality. How many people got their flu shots, meningitis shot, mumps shot, measles etc but are still alive? If you're against one vaccine, you better be against them all.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

If you're against one vaccine, you better be against them all.

I often vacillate between two poles in regards to you...are you retarded or are you a shill?

[–]Node 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Trolling and shilling have a variety of techniques available, and their application depends on the situation and preferences of the account operator.

Covid already killed millions, but deniers claimed it was a myth and there was no need for masking/social distancing

On this topic, full shill mode is the default state of that account. It mitigates the negative effects by making reasonable comments on other topics. Even I have quite a few upvotes on that account, as it at least pays lip service to the jogger problem, among other issues.

You can know it shills because it's obviously not retarded. Functional sentences in English. Punctuation properly placed. Generally communicates thoughts and ideas in an intelligent presentation. So it's clearly not so dumb that it believes it's own bullshit on the covid hoax.

[–]Yin 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

He (radicalcentrist) is a timesinker shill. I called it day one.

He said to me: "I don't care about globalists".

[–]Node 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Evokes nostalgia for the days when it was just the Loki88 troll, socks, and nemacolin. There's big money in the covid hoax, and they're not shy about using it to fertilize the narrative.

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    [–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    If you're interested in the plundering and power levels involved, let me know what you think of the exposé in these two videos and text: https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil/

    I've just found this site with the second video, after watching the first. So far, they plan to control all food and life on the planet. Can't wait to see episode 2.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I honestly think you're a shill, because you're concerned with what people put in their bodies. But I'm betting you didn't care or do anything, when the first Covid case was recorded outside of China.

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    millions of fat old people that would have died anyway

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    There are perfectly healthy people who caught the disease and had to have their lungs amputated.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    like 2 or 3 maybe

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

    Yeah, the lucky ones who still managed to survive (but are also permanently disabled) when it's known to kill.

    Seems like the better solution is to just not let this disease spread in the first place.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

    It's a minor illness to 99.999% of people. But if you want to stop the spread of this, fair enough, that's a good cause. How to do that, can't use a vaccine causing heart attacks. I'd agree social distancing works for obvious reasons. And on a grand scale must close all borders.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    It's a minor illness to 99.999% of people.

    The numbers are actually against you. What do you think 1% of the entire world population is? We barely have enough medical infrastructure to even look after everyone, putting more people on this system is what lead to strains and mass death.

    The vaccines have been a great success at mitigating this damage, it only looks bad to the people who can't come up with any other alternative to a pandemic.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    nah the vaccines don't even stop the spread which fauci and cdc admits. Like I said though I'll support some measures that make sense.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    nah the vaccines don't even stop the spread which fauci and cdc admits.

    They're doing something, because two provinces in my country had to beg mine, to airlift patients who were not vaccinated and dying of the disease.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    airlifted people that had heart attacks? no surprise.

    [–]88BitSorelianism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

    Maybe people like us care because myocarditis from the vax is killing people that are children to early adults around 24 while covid is only a risk to people that are 80+ and obese and it's still a low risk less than 1%, the average age of death of covid is literally higher than the average age of death, these people have lived long enough and they could have lived longer if they took care of their health and maintained a healthy weight. Why should I take a vax for a disease that will not hospitalize me, (I've already had it I'm fine) but I'll more likely get myocarditis from the vax? Are you a senior citizen or something?

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

    This line of thinking makes zero sense.

    Covid-19 will literally steal your last breath away. You can get vaccinated 5 times, and still survive every shot.

    I dislike using names for anti-vax people, but at this stage, you are the last major group of people causing enormous damage to the health care system and the economy in general.

    If you don't want to take the vaccine that's fine, but if you catch the disease and demand access to a hospital, you must either pay a heavy fine for it, or you are put at the bottom of the list and prioritized last for treatment.

    It's not a joke, I'm honestly tired of this pandemic and reading these failed conspiracies that go nowhere. All the passport restrictions seem harsh, but it's what your disregard for public safety has forced many people to push. Like a Driver who intentionally goes past the speed limit and kills children crossing the street. Being irresponsible comes with consequences.

    [–]88BitSorelianism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

    Covid-19 will literally steal your last breath away.

    Yes if you're 80+ or morbidly obese there is a risk of that.

    I dislike using names for anti-vax people, but at this stage, you are the last major group of people causing enormous damage to the health care system and the economy in general.

    No this is propaganda, it is not me that is keeping the lockdowns going it's the government, and I'm not going to give up my bodily autonomy just because people like you think they will give you your freedom back.

    If you don't want to take the vaccine that's fine, but if you catch the disease and demand access to a hospital, you must either pay a heavy fine for it, or you are put at the bottom of the list and prioritized last for treatment.

    Healthcare is a human right, maybe we should not let fat people go to the hospitals, then there would be no more covid patients, but I think they deserve health care too, even though their choices in life led them to that by stuffing their face.

    All the passport restrictions seem harsh, but it's what your disregard for public safety has forced many people to push.

    But vaxed people can and do still spread covid this is what the CDC says, so in reality there is no difference in the spread of covid if we were all vaxed, the only thing the vax does is make you less likely to die from covid, so whether unvaxed are shut out from society or not there will still be covid, and it will be apart of the rest of our lives, just like the flu is. Maybe you should be mad at the government for taking your rights away with the promise of getting them back conditioned on something impossible, like the vax ending covid.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

    Healthcare is a human right,

    We don't live in a world with infinite resources. And even worse, is the idea you would rather play silly pranks with medical staff, who already work 24/7 and barely have a life of their own.

    It's like waving a knife in front of a police officer and baiting him into punching you. It's your right to be a jackass, but don't cry when other people are not so tolerant of dumb behavior.

    [–]88BitSorelianism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    How about you address the other stuff instead of making snide remarks.

    [–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    don't cry when other people are not so tolerant of dumb behavior.

    Aside from a few hand-wringers, who objects to the vaxxers self-selecting for termination? It's really the fairest way to clean up the gene pool, and mitigate the problems caused by excessive numbers of humans at the same time. It's like a win/win/lose, with the unpoisoned being the second win. RIP to the inadequate.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

    Ironically, your assessment is correct but you have the orders mixed up.

    There is definitely natural selection going on, but Covid heavily discriminates against unvaccinated people.

    It's because of this, I stopped listening to their autistic screeching. It's only when they start doing annoying stuff in real life like blocking off highways or ceiling off hospital doors that they need to piss off.

    [–]Node 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Covid hoaxers and their victims heavily discriminate against unpoisoned people.

    Correct version.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    What made you like this?

    I only know one person in real life who is like this, and he didn't really deny the pandemic, but he was very aggressive and downright stubborn when asked to take the virus seriously.

    Oddly, he never acted strange or bizarre when the 2009 swine flu happened, nor do I have any memories of him acting hostile with the 2003 SARS outbreak.

    It's only last year when people popped up and started attacking medical staff who were just trying to do their jobs and save people.

    I'm not even against the idea that conspiracies exist. I'm just stumped, why would you think non-government people like essential workers or doctors are carrying out some kind of agenda to enslave people? Instead of the fact they all need to earn income to live.

    Edit: And calling the people who catch the virus and end up sick or dead a "hoax" is something else I don't understand. The effort needed to fake something like this 24/7, for the past 24 months in a row, goes beyond any hollywood movie's budget.

    [–]Node 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    What made you like this?

    The hoaxers and their victims.

    The effort needed to fake something like this 24/7, for the past 24 months in a row, goes beyond any hollywood movie's budget.

    It's in the trillions. But the payoff is total control over life on this planet. It's not credible that you're as blind to reality as you claim. Are you not aware of how many trillions of dollars have been printed out of nothing in the past few years? And by 'guess who'...

    Hmm, but perhaps I'm giving you too much credit? Are you retard? Is state propaganda your bible? I still don't believe you're that stupid.

    [–]sylla94 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    covid killing millions of people is about as likely as the holocaust killing millions of jews

    which is to say, impossible

    [–]Noam_Chomsky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    That's why I find all this anti-vax shit retarded.

    The term anti waxxer is subjective.

    Have you already had the 3 or 4 that they currently recommend?

    Hurry up. Go get as many jabs as you can.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Covid already killed millions

    0.007% of the global population.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Which is still devastating because Hospitals were never equipped for that type of demand. Especially as it forced non-Covid related surgeries and treatment to be cancelled.

    Overall, I have yet to see a single perfected argument against the pandemic. Everything I've read is meant to ignore reality and put more innocent people in harms way.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    hospitals were already full, ever have to go to an ER, waits take hours. covid had nothing to do with it, and they're laying people off anyways

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    hospitals were already full,

    Full of who? Do you really believe sick people just spawned out of thin air, like a video game? And coincidently, at the same time as the entire world was going through this?

    I reaaaaaaaly don't understand why you guys fall for these contradictions. This stuff is worse than flat earth...

    [–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Which is still devastating because Hospitals were never equipped for that type of demand.

    False.

    Hospitals are often at near or beyond stated "capacity". The globalist lying "news" cycle prior to covid hysteria simply never created as much theatrics around it. Hospitals in regions run by servants of this political-accelerated "vaccine"/control scam were literally adjusting their "capacity" numbers downward to add to a sense of inflated hysteria claims about "record capacity". It's normal for hospitals to be at 100-200% "capacity" during peak flu seasons prior to covid, and then they re-adjust their business. Hospitals are largely a business. That's especially so as globalist-neoliberal scum accelerates their evil and pushes their poisons with globalist forked tongues.

    [–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    So why didn't people show the same concern last year when Covid already killed millions

    Are you finally acknowledging the fact that the vaccines do indeed cause deaths and injurys in some people (the numbers of which are recorded by VAERS)?

    The coronavirus disproportionately killed off elderly people with health problems; they were the highest risk group. The vaccines, by comparison, are killing off people of all age groups, including the young and healthy. This is cause for alarm.

    but deniers claimed it was a myth and there was no need for masking/social distancing?

    Vaccine skeptics, NOT deniers. Correct your terminology, otherwise you sound like a shitlib.

    And BTW, don't throw all vaccine skeptics into the same box. Only a select few denied the existence of a specific coronavirus.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Edit: You know what? I'm tired of wasting my breath on this nonsense.

    [–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Good. You don't get paid enough to deal with someone like me.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    You guys do you. I just find this conspiracy ironic because Blacks are the ones who disproportionately support the anti-vaccine narrative, and they are always on the wrong side of history.

    So literally, enjoy living in the planet of the apes if all the smart people are gone...

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "first, do no harm"

    Even if it is rare, if it causes harm at all, it must not be used. Go back to the drawing board and develop a 100% safe vaccine. I will take it if it is proven by studies to be safe.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Hurrah

    [–]Wrangel 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Covid is really bad for the heart and lungs. Myocarditis following covid is relatively common among young people and serious infections increase the risk of heart complications. The biggest risk for young people with infections isn't the infections themselves but all the health problems that follow. Cancers are commonly caused by viral infections.

    The globalists and their open borders let the virus spread across the world and millions of people died. A high load on the ICUs, canceled operations, lacking care for cancer patients and fewer people going to the doctor will lead to more deaths. Asian ethnostates managed to stop the spread, we had incompetent rulers.

    [–]Sinn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Catching SARS-CoV-2 is worse than not catching a virus at all, I'll give you that.

    Define relatively common, though.

    I don't remember young and healthy sport stars dropping dead left and right in 2020.

    As far as I can tell, the juice is at best equivalent to moderate symptomatic covid in terms of side effects.

    Given that everything points to the virus being intentionally released by the people selling the juice, the logical approach is to limit exposure to both.

    Releasing the virus alone was an unforgivable crime but let's not pretend that the injection isn't even worse.

    [–]Wrangel 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    The vaccine release a small subset of the proteins the virus releases and it releases them in much lower quantities. The virus will always be worse than the vaccine.

    [–]Sinn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Besides of the fact of the sudden surge in heart issues, that's a big assumption you make.

    There are claims that the spike protein itself may be harmful which would make it a curious choice for a "target" if that were to be the case.

    Leaving that aside, however, fever is a good indicator for severe viral infection.

    This provides with a way to estimate how a DNA/mRNA infection compares to SARS-CoV-2.

    The juice causes high fever in either all or all exposures after the first.

    Meanwhile, the virus which produces the same spike, along with others which are not unique or uniquely effective, only causes a high fever in severe cases.

    This is how I deduce the harm for the juice is greater than for the average SARS dosage.

    Furthermore, the delivery method, whether DNA or mRNA does not induce an immune reaction to itself, meaning every dose is causing the same number of cells to produce the spike protein.

    Spiked cells in say the heart or the ovaries will be eventually detected and destroyed by the immune system.

    Given that the immune response is equivalent to severe "covid" and that severity is guaranteed to be the same for every dose, the vaccine would only provide an improvement over very severe covid cases even assuming it provides any protection to the virus whatsoever which again is a big leap of faith on evil people.