Hypothetical: If a small European country elected Hitler, would you immediately move there?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Where did you learn history?

Hitler's biggest enemy was Stalin & the Soviets. He regarded them as being Jewish Bolsheviks threatening Europe.

Hitler was not Communist, he was Fascist.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

he was national socialist, just like stalin. But there was long history of warfare and antagonism between russia and germany, before either had revolutions, before WWI.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Socialism in Russia had nothing to do with what happened in Germany & Italy.

The systems diverged, and Italy & Germany where like Corporatism but with race involved. Stalin was full on Worker's Party and social equality, who wanted to control all means of production and private property.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

nazis did that too. Now wall st bankers funded and controlled both, that is true.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Do you have proof that the Nazi Party controlled all private industries?

Hitler wasn't responsible for making Fanta Soda. There was an existing Coca-Cola branch that was forced to come up with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanta

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

stalin had private companies working in russia too, he had deals with henry ford for example. National socialism and socialism in one country were the same ideas. FDR's new deal was the same thing too.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So now you're calling FDR Communist?

Why not just say Capitalism doesn't exist? Everyone since the Ancient Egyptians were Communist according to you, even before Karl Marx was born?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

yeah pretty obvious

Did you think the ancient egyptians were capitalist?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, but they weren't Communist either.

I'm saying you have your economic definitions wrong if you think the U.S was ever Communist.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

no one's really fully capitalist, no one's really fully communist or socialist, not accoding to the definitions of marx, there'd mixed market economies. Don't try to bring up the egyptians. Stay on the subject which was originally Hitler.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In what did Wall Street control Germany? Even leftie historians don’t make claims that ridiculous.

I highly recommend you watch this Cultured Thug video on the NS economy that deals with many of the common myths.

https://odysee.com/@Cultured_Thug_Archive_01:5/THE-NAZI-ECONOMY:d

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

wow you're pretty misinformed, that should be common knowledge by now.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t think I am misinformed, but if you have an argument I’d love to hear it.

You should read Wages of Destruction & Hitler’s revolution if this is a topic that interests you. The NSDAP got the vast majority of their funds from small donations from working & middle class people. They didn’t receive any large doners until 1932 when they were on the verge of winning power. Capitalists thought they could control Hitler this way but were wrong as it turned out the next year.

The amount of money that went to Berlin from New York was negligible, in fact the two countries all but halted trade with each other in the 30’s, it was a fraction of what it was in the Weimar era.

Even mainstream historians that despise Hitler all admit that these myths that the ‘Nazis were controlled by big business’ & ‘Fascism is capitalism in decay…’ couldn’t be further from the truth.