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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think this is an issue for nationalists at all, never met a single one that doesn't want to have kids.

How can we convince the non-nationalists? By making them nationalists.

[–]TheWebOfSlime 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Stop getting married per government requirements, keep it in your church, and let the State fund your kids.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

How could we appeal to get more women in the movement?

Stop hating on women or feminism. Whites are better than other races and one of the reasons for that is that we're providing better living conditions for women. And we should. Part of being pro white is being pro white women. How can you be pro white if you hate on half the white population?

If you see white nationalists hate on women, then shame them.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

How can you be pro white if you hate on half the white population?

Men have built and maintained civilization for thousands of years. Women's primary contribution was to give birth to more Men to support this.

Also, fuck Feminism. By definition, it argues for equality. Yet just like race, it's impossible for both sexes to be the same at a molecular level.

I don't wake up everyday hating the opposite sex, but I also don't really care if they were chained to the Kitchen 24/7. When Women can invent the Automobile, Atomic Bombs or Space Rockets, then they would understand why they've been put in their place throughout history.

And no, helping Men to assemble rockets or cars is not the same thing. We don't credit cows for running the farm, we thank the Farmer.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Men have built and maintained civilization for thousands of years. Women's primary contribution was to give birth to more Men to support this.

This is women bashing and not giving proper value to the "give birth" aspect of civilization. Women are amazing and have an ability to give life which men do not. Women and men aren't the same and we can provide different goods to society.
Your statement reeks of sexism against women and it is to be honest very sad to read. It is actually disgusting in my opinion.
Do you have zero respect for your mom who birthed you into existance? Your grandmother? And all the women down the line, who faced worse hardships than you will ever experience in your life. Without whom, your "civilization" would not exist.

Also, fuck Feminism. By definition, it argues for equality. Yet just like race, it's impossible for both sexes to be the same at a molecular level.

Some types of feminism argues that, but not all. You can have equal but different feminism too, where men and women both contribute with different things to a relationship. Beating your wife? Treating her like your property? Yes I am sorry but it is not going to fly. Move to some arab muslim country if that is how you want to live your life.

I don't wake up everyday hating the opposite sex, but I also don't really care if they were chained to the Kitchen 24/7

Would you like to live your life chained to the kitchen 24/7? Or your mom to be? Your wife? Your daughter? really? This is what you want for the women in your society? Really? I doubt that if you take your head out of the antiwhite sexist propaganda that you've consumed (I had too, I am no saint, I was like you)

And no, helping Men to assemble rockets or cars is not the same thing. We don't credit cows for running the farm, we thank the Farmer.

It takes 2 to make babies. Why would you advocate for half the white population to be treated like the nonwhite world does it? They're animals.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This is women bashing and not giving proper value to the "give birth" aspect of civilization. Women are amazing and have an ability to give life which men do not. Women and men aren't the same and we can provide different goods to society. Your statement reeks of sexism against women and it is to be honest very sad to read. It is actually disgusting in my opinion. Do you have zero respect for your mom who birthed you into existance? Your grandmother? And all the women down the line, who faced worse hardships than you will ever experience in your life. Without whom, your "civilization" would not exist.

Dude, I'm proud to be sexist, just like I'm proud to be called Racist.

You said it yourself, Women and Men aren't the same. As a result, we don't need to ass kiss or treat anyone special. We are all a product of our genes, and that is what determines social differences.

As for respect, I will never respect someone for just having a vagina. Just like how I don't respect someone for having Black Skin or Slanted Eyes.

Some types of feminism argues that, but not all. You can have equal but different feminism too, where men and women both contribute with different things to a relationship. Beating your wife? Treating her like your property? Yes I am sorry but it is not going to fly. Move to some arab muslim country if that is how you want to live your life.

What is the entire purpose of Feminism if it did not try and argue Women should be seen as Men? We have existing laws that already deal with assault, or even slavery. Inventing a new terminology for this obviously implies there was always a hidden agenda.

And Sean Connery said it best about wife beating. It's a form of discipline, no different to stopping a kid from touching a burning stove. Since Men are natural guardians, it's our duty to love but also restrict children/women from doing things they don't understand is dangerous.

Would you like to live your life chained to the kitchen 24/7? Or your mom to be? Your wife? Your daughter? really? This is what you want for the women in your society? Really? I doubt that if you take your head out of the antiwhite sexist propaganda that you've consumed (I had too, I am no saint, I was like you)

If I was a born a Woman? Sure.

You already get a house, you already get food, you're even lucky to get a monthly allowance to buy any fancy clothes you want. It's actually playing life on easy mode, since Women are not expected to die in violent wars, or go deep into the dangerous coal mines, or even be responsible for cleaning up public sewage.

Being a Man is far more hard work and comes with a lot of risks, that if any Woman tried to switch roles with us, they would cry their eyes out with how scary it is. In fact, Women are taught to be pampered since birth. Society wants them to be seen as fit, healthy and beautiful, and we pay A LOT of money just so they can walk around with a nice ass and tits. If you're born a Man, you don't get shit for free. You either join the factory, or become a leader of an industry. There are no inbetweens for us.

It takes 2 to make babies. Why would you advocate for half the white population to be treated like the nonwhite world does it? They're animals.

Women have no bargaining power. Men evolved as the sex with the bigger brain, and bigger muscles, and throughout history, our demands were always met first.

If it was any other way, nature would not have created us. Go look at Spiders were the role is reversed. Female Spiders are massive and much bigger than their male counterparts, yet do you think the male spiders can debate this? All they can do is get the Female Spiders fertilized, before she bites his head off.

If anything, the only reason Women can even debate with us is because we share our advance technology and institutions with them.

But the moment they lose their access to voting, justice systems or even the internet, they quickly revert to being Cavewoman bitch and cry out for a Man to come save her.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Good luck attracting women to your society. It must be a great advertising to see ones future as "chained to the kitchen 24/7" with demeaning language and rhetoric.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's not about luck. It's simply the natural order of things that only in 1964 with the Civil Rights crap, did we teach that Women were actually people instead of breeding stock.

I don't care if that offends a bitch. That's the entire point. Men being stronger and smarter is why I can trash talk in their face, and the Woman can only stand there and take it.

It must be a great advertising to see ones future as "chained to the kitchen 24/7" with demeaning language and rhetoric.

And yet despite this, Women have never built a separate competitive society. They would still choose to live under Men who wish to rule them.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

and truth is women like being dominated. feminism is a shit test.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's also true.

Between a scrawny cuck, and a 6 Foot Tall Gigachad, the Woman will always pick the bad boy who could clear an entire shopping mall with his fists.

If anything, we can now see why the media loves brainwashing Men to look more weak and feminine. It is done to deprive us of power.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the rich elites, folks that are like epstein, want the women for themselves. everything is competition for women. While they push feminism they're also raping girls behind closed doors. If there was what I'd call "true feminism" it'd mean being honest about what women want and letting them have it, strong men that tell them what to do.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

100% agree, brother.

[–]Lugger 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How would a nationalist movement encourage an increase in White birth rates?

Well, what many folks in nationalist circles don't understand is that times have changed, and people — both men and w*men — no longer want to have a lot of children for the sake of having children like they did in the past.

The modern world is too damn good of a place to live and enjoy, so it's really expected that Western Europeans aren't thrilled about sacrificing their 20s and 30s on raising children instead of, say, partying and pursuing Gender Studies degrees to secure a cushy job in some HuffPo-tier column so they can write about patriarchy and intersectionality while getting a paycheck and feeling good about themselves for the rest of their lives.

To get Europeans, especially whamen, to have children, the benefits of it should outweight the negatives by a far margin.

The most obvious way to achieve this is have the state provide good priveleges to couples with children — and they should be so good that the temptation will be hard to resist for most people.

Cutting the taxes in proportion to the number of children, low interest rate loans, handing out nice houses and apartments to the ones with a lot children, et cetera et cetera — you get the idea.

Yeah, many countries today offer some sort of privileges to the couples who have kids, but they're far too small to override the YOLO lifestyle.

Which is no surprise because the modern European elites think they can increase the population by importing hordes of Turd-World orcs from the Middle East, Africa and India. So why would they bother with raising the Europeans' birth rates?

The collapsing birthrates are in a lot of ways more than immigration the main driver of our people's ethnic replacement.

No, pal, you are wrong. You can't outbreed the Third World.

As a matter of fact, Japan's birth rates are extremely low as well, but they've no threat of being overrun by foreigners because their gubmint isn't nearly as retarded as the ones we have in the West.

A lot of factors are the cause from abortion, birth control...

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To be honest, I've never understood why WN folks oppose these things. Boomers and Christcucks — yeah, but here?

I want people to have children they plan and desire, and if some whaman got knocked up by a Chad she banged on a ONS, it is in the interests of everyone — herself and the greater society — that she gets an abortion because she won't be able to provide for the child, and, since she didn't even want it in the first place, it will most likely experience abuse and grow up to be a lowlife thug or a junkie.

Who wants to have these people roaming around glorious Western European countries because the foids were unable to get an abortion due to 'muh child murder!!!' laws?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

rwers want women to be afraid to have sex with chad on a ONS lest she get pregnant and not be allowed to get an abortion and have to have a kid she didn't want. Women don't think ahead like that though, just live in the moment. So that does lead to more babies being born including white ones, but not high quality ones being raised by a family of married parents. So you're right. But the answer is not to allow birth control or abortions.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Look up R/K selection.

Rabbits can have hundreds of babies whereas a Dolphin might have only one. Why? Because of the energy and time they put into raising their young, which relates to their evolutionary history of how they choose to survive.

This also applies to humans, especially as we've all become materialistic and want to do more with our free time, that simplying having 12 kids per family would be too expensive.

The only realistic scenario I can imagine, is do what the Soviets did and impose a "no-child's" tax. If you don't have at least 1 kid, you're going to be burdened with it for life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_on_childlessness

But otherwise, don't expect birth rates like Africa without drastically changing culture with it.

Throughout history, there's always been incentives to "pay" to have more children, but it almost never works. Again, it's our current biology that is working against us. Especially if you're a High IQ Ape who spends more time in the lab, than at a daycare.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

outlaw tinder, outlaw feminism