Is there any pro war wing of the Dissident Right?

submitted by Nasser from self.debatealtright

By pro war, I'm referring to mainly modern day in support of US foreign policy. Nearly everyone here believes that since WW2 the US has acted as the global enforcer of neoliberal capitalism and zionism. Toppling and destabilizing regimes that dared to put the interests of their people first because they were CoMmUnIsTs or because they dared to not be comfortable with having their economies and cultures controlled from NY and LA.

Are there any on the dissident right who are in favour of American style imperialism and entanglements in foreign quarrels? If so why?

Or any who are in favour of any other conflicts (for examples against China or South Africa)?

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[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The anti-war sentiment largely comes from how nearly every war in the last 100 years (I would argue 300-400, personally) have not been helpful for white well-being. In a better world, I would favor foreign intervention in certain situations, and I think a lot of people here would say the same. As you said, the plight of the South Africans should hurt anyone who cares about white people, and I do believe something should be done about it. With that said, I tend to dislike war and favor epic handshake alliances with countries that are going through the same struggles that we are. Like the Eastern Europeans, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan, or North Korea. Even China, I believe, could one day be an ally to a third positionist white country. I do not believe a war with China will be beneficial for white well-being with the exception being that the war topples the current American government.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Are there any on the dissident right who are in favour of American style imperialism and entanglements in foreign quarrels? If so why?

Yeah the fake dissidents who are just trying to make people vote for the GOP like Nick Fuentes and BAP. Why? Cuz they're fake and gay bootlickers.

As for actual dissidents, no because it would automatically disqualify them from being against jewry and white genocide if they actively support them.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't realize BAP ever promoted the GOP, I thought he was just Walmart Nietzsche.

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    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Cuckservative is just this generation's RINO. BAP is just a GOP operative to do the 'those aren't real conservatives, support the real ones instead!' bit they've always done.

    He is a nice guy personally, he promotes people and helps them out. But politically all he's doing is getting people to vote for the GOP instead of actually opposing the system in any way. Politically useless.

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      This comment reminded me of Heel Turn's Joachim, he was pro-intervention as well.

      [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I still wince thinking about that famous last episode where Joachim was getting really upset about Striker and talking like some deluded neocon intent on protecting corporations abroad. Still don't know why he started acting like that.

      [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      I think sometimes people confuse the DR position on war with pacifism. I'm not a pacifist and I've never really heard anyone else espouse that. I'm passionately anti-war in the context of mainly current American foreign policy because nearly all of our efforts in that regard are designed to be for the benefit of Jews, Israel and a bankrupt empire. Theyre also nearly always harmful to the white race.

      These wars are also often sold as a defence of phony and illegitimate values this empire is allegedly charged with defending. I reject those values and would actually support military action to destroy those who espouse them.

      If someone proposed a war tomorrow that was justifiably in the name of helping the white race, Christendom and the west I'd be the first to sign up.

      Why we go to war is the reason I think nearly all people on the DR have a problem with.

      [–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      Nothing wrong with pacifism either.

      [–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Pacifism is cowardly.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      if there's a good just war, makes sense to fight it. But if it's a war for neoliberalism or zionism why should we spend trillions, and risk the lives of young men over it?

      [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Have you heard of anyone that's pro war? I haven't.
      China and South Africa have nothing to do with each other.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Nick Fuentes was a giant cheerleader for Trump, when he killed the Iranian General last year.

      [–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      As was he when Trump bombed Syria. I remember a long time ago him and James Allsup debated that issue. The video is probably long gone.

      [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Some people on the right see war itself as transcendental, Evola for example. But that's more from the warrior's perspective rather than the political one.