How will we gain power?

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1) /ourguys/ gain power through legal means: either it be through an election, a succession, or some other way.

2) Power is seized via a slow creep. Similar to how the Jews managed it; by being very ethnocentric and subtly pushing out others to supplant with their own. This would lead to a culture shift, where over the course of decades, society would have metamorphosized into something we strive for. This process has taken the Jews over a century and counting to steadily poison and shape our civilization to their liking.

3) Power is somehow achieved as the result of some major calamity; natural disaster, nuclear war, famines, disease, alien invasion, etc.

4) The exact opposite of the first scenario--violent means. Revolution, insurgency, coup, etc. [not a fedpost].

5) Whites group together and form their own isolated communities, like the Amish. This would be a small portion of the general population, and as European populations decline, these communities if left alone would flourish. With the major providers (Whites) gone, Europe would descend into a, 'Second Dark Age'. Technological and societal progress would cease. And as Brown Europe stagnates, these communities of Whites would grow to become more powerful than the usurpers to eventually take back their homelands. Perhaps this sounds outlandish.

6) Even more outlandish idea incoming: FTL technology is discovered and interstellar travel becomes commonplace. Whites congregate and create far flung communities deep into the black void, abandoning Earth to its own devices. Aka a wunderszenario.

7) Our desperate struggle for survival fails, and evil wins.

Given our current trajectory, what appears the most likely to you? Anything I missed?

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[–]88BitSorelianism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wanted to add that it's secession not succession, two very different things. Also in our current state all we are doing is number 7, but I see number 5 being likely if most White people shared our views.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1) /ourguys/ gain power through legal means: either it be through an election, a succession, or some other way.

No. I use to think some type of succession was possible but I'm getting doubtful of that.

2) Power is seized via a slow creep. Similar to how the Jews managed it; by being very ethnocentric and subtly pushing out others to supplant with their own. This would lead to a culture shift, where over the course of decades, society would have metamorphosized into something we strive for. This process has taken the Jews over a century and counting to steadily poison is and shape our civilization to their liking.

Jews are absolutely incrementalists but the golem they manipulate into doing their bidding are not. Violent golem help advance Jewish plans very quickly. Had Jews not figure out how to ride the violence of other groups (and then betray them) they'd probably no longer exist. They would have been blended into one of their hosts long ago.

3) Power is somehow achieved as the result of some major calamity; natural disaster, nuclear war, famines, disease, alien invasion, etc.

That doesn't seem likely due to the fact that we still lack organization. You have to be in a position to take advantage of those situations. We are better off than 10 years ago but nowhere near the level of independence and hierarchy of leadership required to capitalize on such events.

4) The exact opposite of the first scenario--violent means. Revolution, insurgency, coup, etc. [not a fedpost].

Also not organized enough. But this option is not off the table. Spontaneous organization under the write conditions is possible.

5) Whites group together and form their own...

Not only is this the preferred option but it's also the most likely. Despite how dangerous the political climate looks today and how perilous foreign policy looks I still think that we need analyze this situation as a very very long struggle. They racial group that will 'win,' i.e. survive impending globalism, will be the group that looks past the globalist age and prepares for a future they will never see. Plant trees for shade you may never sit in. One thing whites have proven to me is that they are capable of delayed gratification and thinking ideologically. The current white consciousness is not set is stone. It is capable of radical change. I pray our collective consciousness bends back towards the noble truths of our racialized ancestors.

6) Even more outlandish idea incoming: FTL technology is discovered and interstellar travel becomes commonplace. Whites congregate and create far flung communities deep into the black void, abandoning Earth to its own devices. Aka a wunderszenario.

Interstellar travel carries with it the same struggle as other expansionist time periods. Until we figure out our Jewish problem we will have a scholmo sitting right next to chad on the rocket ship trying to figure out how he can mercantalize and enslave the entire universe to his perverse and hedonist desires.

7) Our desperate struggle for survival fails, and evil wins.

Not an option.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whites group together and form their own isolated communities, like the Amish. This would be a small portion of the general population, and as European populations decline, these communities if left alone would flourish.

The challenge with this scenario is that white areas will suddenly "need more diversity". Blacks, Browns, and Jews don't want equality, they want revenge. They will use the police state to inject somali muslims and nigerian boko harams into your neighborhood, purely out of spite. Secondly, whites have been trained to hate themselves and welcome their enemies. The only way whites will get their own communities is if there is some sort of collapse of the jewish power structure and end to self hatred.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I worry about the succession scenario, that the new leader might be an idiot.

100 years ago, the likes of Hitler, Mussolini, Franco or Codreanu were not only committed to the cause, but they had a sense of nation building in mind.

But today, you see conservatives and liberals drooling over Trump, Trudeau, Boris Johnson, Bolsonaro, who all care more about enriching themselves and their friends first, before actually committing to any serious national action.

Where are the ambitious plans to build new highways like the Autobahn? Or fix healthcare which Covid has exposed several flaws? I think a White Nationalist leader could fall into the same trap. They'll get elected by saying nice things, but ultimately, their platform will be the same as the current system.

[–]Girondin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think a variation of 2)

We need a coherent grassroots movement that is able to activate a decent sector of the population (~5%), that is able to create a quite stable political mass and becomes a real force in society. Ethno-nationalism feeling is not made in a vacuum, Blacks were clearly more ethnocentric with the rise of the Black Muslims then in preceding periods (good book about this).

The important point though is that we never compromise and treat them like how they treat us (wiki page on social inoculation theory, a popular "counter-extremism" theory). Revolutions are never made by compromisers. But the system would only ever compromise if they see it as a strong [or potentially strong] political force.

maybe 1) could happen but only after a very long period of 2)

[–]Erasmus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know where this fits, but I believe a Whitestrike is a possible option in the not-too-distant future. Our adversaries are champing at the bit to implement government discrimination against Whites--Biden's Restaurant Relief Fund already did so this year, "prioritizing aid" to non-Whites, with an understanding that the Fund would run out of money before Whites ever got a penny.

They were barely beaten back by a lawsuit from the White restaurant owners who were being discriminated against.

But our adversaries are nothing if not inventive, and when Whites lack the demographic power to stop them from packing the Supreme Court, eliminating the filibuster, and controlling the counting of votes in Congress, eventually the implementation of these anti-White programs will triumph.

Finally we'll be in a position where Whites no longer have anything to lose. Even liberal-leaning Whites will see that all their groveling and apologies have been for nothing. The mask will be off.

Whites may not have the votes to prevent themselves from being treated as a hated sub-caste, but if Whites deprive the system of their labor in large enough numbers, the system will come to a crashing halt. Think of the current supply chain problems, multiplied by a thousand. No food on grocery store shelves, no gas at the gas station, airports are shut down, even the internet stops working.

Hopefully, we will have leaders who are actually capable of negotiating meaningful reforms on our behalf by then.