Lukashenka on weapons: "There are attempts to transfer of weapons, ammunition and explosives to these people in camps, in last 2 days they are transferring weapons... we talked with Putin on this topic... weapons coming from Donbas, they want to make a provocation"

submitted by EthnocratArcheofuturist from (self.debatealtright)

Looks like he's already making up excuses to arm these invaders. This is just glorious. There's nothing that would rile up nativist sentiments among Europeans like watching armed invaders shooting at our border forces.

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https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1458747444766851072

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[–]NeoRail 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Isn't that escalating things a bit too much? I do not know what he is trying to accomplish, but if he actually goes through with this, he will at the very least destroy all the power of progressivism in Europe. I can't imagine the humanitarian narrative surviving photographic evidence of armed "refugees" attacking Western borders. This just seems completely out of nowhere to me. I can't understand why he would do this.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if he actually goes through with this, he will at the very least destroy all the power of progressivism in Europe. I can't imagine the humanitarian narrative surviving photographic evidence of armed "refugees" attacking Western borders.

That's why I want him to do it.

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    [–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    My assumption is that Lukashenko is working without or perhaps even against Russia, since he's both linking this to the Donbas and risking Russian gas exports in Belarus and Ukraine. I don't know what Belarus or Russia could possibly stand to gain from this or how far this dispute could escalate, and I am not sure I can make a reasonable guess either.

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      [–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It's a weird situation because both Putin and the EU want Belarus in perpetuity, but neither party really wants Lukashenko. He's kind of an independent dictator. He is allied with Russia, but he has the capacity to do huge damage to its strategic situation and he knows that. He is vulnerable but at the same time has a lot of leverage.

      [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I'm missing the overall end goal here, but maybe this explains why Donbas appears to be "making a provocation" with Belarus, although tacitly on the same side.

      The continuing attacks by the US and EU on Russia and Belarus are being met by highbred responses, since the US and EU are looking for excuses to escalate.

      "Darn, it's a shame those moslems entered our country and are now trying to enter Poland."

      I don't get the part where he names Donbas, as it seems like he's saying his own side is doing it. Otherwise it seems like a good way to keep the pressure on.

      The possible downside is this causing the EU to be less favorable towards invaders? Maybe Lukashenka is trying to wake them up? If the EU ultimately falls to the moslems, that couldn't be good for Belarus.

      [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      This is a favor to Putin likely. Giving him an excuse to invade or further isolate Ukraine. If armed migrants attack Polish guards, it would be tantamount to Ukrainian terrorists declaring war on the EU. In that case, the EU won't be able to back Ukraine in a war with Russia.

      Without EU support, the US and UK can't do anything in Europe

      [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The problem with that is the Donbas region is held by the Russian separatists. So no one will blame Ukraine for actions of the people they call 'terrorists'.

      I spent a couple days looking at the western part of that region on google streetview, with lots of 360 degree drone images. There are massive open pit mining operations all over the place, with incredible processing facilities. Worth checking out if you ever get bored.

      [–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Send some of those weapons to the American South. Somebody will put them to good use one of these days.

      [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Based Lukua. If armed invaders attack Lithuanian and Polish guards, they'll have a license to open fire and even use tanks and artillery. Brussels won't be able to do anything in that case. If they still try to interfere, the Poles could very well leave the EU outright.

      Even the Polish shill government wouldn't dare let an invasion of Polish lands take place because of muh refugees and EU.