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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

Raising children is the most important work a woman can do and its also necessary part of any society to bring up the next generation of people yet you talk about women being shunted into wage slavery at meaningless, make work jobs that benefit no one as some kind of moral duty. How ridiculous.

Libertarianism is moral syphilis.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (38 children)

Raising children is the most important work a woman can do

Men already have to do that too.

yet you talk about women being shunted into wage slavery at meaningless, make work jobs that benefit no one as some kind of moral duty. How ridiculous.

Why is it not ridiculous when we do the exact same thing to men? Why do we deserve to be punished for not being born female? I certainly didn't choose that and I doubt most people would, and even if they did you still have no valid reason to hate someone for being male.

I'm fucking sick of me and half the world being treated like shit for not being a girl. Society treats us like shit, other people treat us like shit, our own bodies treat us like shit, our brains treat us like shit, and nature treats us like shit. We are only allowed to exist so far as what we do, while women are apparently precious and deserve everything for doing nothing but existing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

it wouldn't be a punishment if a man is doing hard but fulfilling work where he can support a woman at home who takes care of the kids, that woman would be working hard albeit at a different type of job.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

That's not nearly as hard and is way more rewarding. And besides, she can avoid all of that by not having kids, whereas a man has no choice.

Most men can't get fulfilling work either. Women usually do because they get to work for fun and nothing else. But men have to pay the bills, not self-actualize.

Why?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

yeah we're talking about traditional society which we need to go back to. Obviously can't allow women to just do whatever like right now. Men and women both were happier in years past.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

My first point still stands. And no we shouldn't go back to that because it sucks for all but one specific type of person. The real reason people were happier in the 50s is probably because there was an economic boom and most people could afford to take life easy and not get too stressed. Now we have ever-increasing demands which even kindergateners are feeling the weight of. These days there's no time for fun or relaxation or even mental health.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

no it was great for all except maybe our rulers

same reason it was an economic boom, we need to keep women out of the workforce, it's supply and demand with labor, keep them out and men's wages are doubled

that solves your other problem about not enough time too

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

What we need to do is stop burdening men with all of it. Women should have to do their part too, we act like they deserve to just be lazy and pampered all the time because they're girls. They should both work part-time. Women are more talented at pretty much every kind of non-physical work anyway, and yet we still expect men to do all of it. And even at work women are given an easier time and not burdened as much. I don't f**king care how many people have a fetish for being Ken & Barbie, that's for your bedroom, life is more important than that.

And no, removing women would only burden men even more because there'd be less people to do the work.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

men and women are different. women are weaker, mentally and physically. They can't work at the same jobs as men, sorry if it seems unfair but it is just reality. Why fight it. Raising children is hard work, why deny that?

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

Women are only weaker physically. We use this to say they're mentally weaker as an excuse to pamper and spoil them and not hold them to any expectations. In fact women are much stronger mentally and that's the thing I'm most envious of.