What is the Alt Right? (Varg)

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[–]fschmidt[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

The "alt-right", as a label or project, has been obsolete for years now.

Then why is this sub named what it is?

How about instead of lumping people into nebulously defined categories and addressing them as a monolith, you talk to them and discover there's a lot more nuance and common ground than you thought?

Labels that people choose to identify themselves with are extremely useful. The vast majority of humanity is worthless. To save time in finding the few worthwhile people, I can eliminate all those who identify themselves with bad labels (Leftist, Alt-Right, Jew, etc.).

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

To save time in finding the few worthwhile people, I can eliminate all those who identify themselves with bad labels (Leftist, Alt-Right, Jew, etc.).

So then why are you here retard? Go back to sucking baby dicks and spraypainting spasticas.

[–]Zvezda 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Clearly you are alt right, you are simply judging based on blood and nothing else. How retarded must YOU be to say something as stupid as this??? He is right, if people identify themselves with ridiculous labels, there is 0 point in talking to them at all.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

This is just nonsense. There's frequent posts here praising Zemmour. In an art related thread the other day there were numerous people praising different Jewish artists. I myself admire people like gilad atzmon, Israel shamir, Glen greenwald and many other Jewish people. No one here in my experience says 'I just hate Jews because of blood and blood alone'.

The negative reaction to the OP is because of his atrocious and malicious behaviour-- unfortunately for him all too typical for many Jews -- in the past. He's actively tried for a long time to get dissident right subs banned and frequently vomits up his misanthropic bile here. He's also incredibly insulting and rude.

Anyone who does that -- jew, aryan or rastafarian -- will get it returned and they deserve it and it has nothing to do with what blood is flowing through their veins.

[–]fschmidt[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

I generally don't bother responding to the repeated lies of members of this sub, but for Zvezda's benefit, I will just repeat again that this is the usual lies. I am somewhat misanthropic given the low quality of people today, but so is Node who doesn't get trashed because he is white. The rest of this is simply lies.

[–]Node 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

because he is white

Well, that, but mainly because of my account age being #3 on saidit. But m7 and d3rr only beat me by 40 days! heh Possibly #1 irl, but I'm just guessing.

Nah, I'm just kidding. It's totally because I'm White, but being tall, handsome, and articulate hasn't worked against me either. 😊

Jokes aside, you may note that the occasions when I've called subscribers to this sub a bunch of moronic scum have been pretty rare... If it's not my handsome White face and engaging personality, that might have something to do with your perception of a different reception.

But jew or not, one can't help but feel some affinity for a fellow misanthropist. Although I suspect it's the case for both of us that it's more about their low-budget OS and software, rather than their humanness itself.

https://wikidiff.com/misanthropist/misanthrope

Ran across this site while researching for the above comment. Not sure if hating the human race versus hating the human species is a valid distinction.

[–]Zvezda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What is the difference between the Human Species and the Human Race? My guess is that the Human Race is us now and the Human species is us originally.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Misanthropist is a synonym of misanthrope.

As nouns the difference between misanthropist and misanthrope is that

misanthropist is a misanthrope; a person who hates all mankind; a person who hates the human species

while misanthrope is one who hates all mankind; one who hates the human race.

Maybe I'm dumb, but I'm failing to get the point of this semantic runaround.

[–]Zvezda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I don't get the difference :p

[–]fschmidt[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The members of this sub started insulting me first. But of course this is standard procedure for modern scum. The alt-right are simply a subset of modern scum. The standard procedure with modern scum is that I say something they disagree with, then they insult me, then I insult them. I used to try to have some patience with modern scum, but I have found this to be pointless.

Like Varg said, the alt-right aren't alternative at all. They are just on the right end of the spectrum of modern scum. Their racism actually makes sense since all modern scum only support superficial things and hate everything of depth. In this sense they are much like BLM as I discussed here.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The alt-right are simply a subset of modern scum.

On its face, the term "Alt-right" appears to describe an alternative to being right, which would seem to reference 'wrong' or 'left'. Whether or not the "Alt-right" was created by jews for the usual purposes is not a debate that interests me, but semantically the label is problematic, imo.

As far as racism goes, any person who lacks the capacity (or chooses not) to be racist possesses a truncated cognitive system. Racism is the cousin of specism, with the focus more on the different attributes and characteristics in the races within our own species.

If someone claims to not be racist, they're mentally retarded. (to some degree) Note that a prominent characteristic of races is varying physical appearance. One can't say they're not racist, but then reference black people, for example. How do they know the person is black if they didn't literally reference some distinct characteristic of their physical appearance? That is dictionary definition racism.

the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities

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But typically the physical appearance is simply a marker to watch for the associated abilities and qualities. It's not the black skin or cartoonish facial features that people dislike about blacks. Those are just a warning that the persons qualities are extremely likely to be "violent, stupid, and a menace".

Their racism actually makes sense since all modern scum only support superficial things and hate everything of depth.

Disagree. Racism and specism are the primary responsibilities and duties of all mammals, if not all animals. The non-racist/non-specist will soon go extinct.

[–]fschmidt[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Racism is the cousin of specism,

Racism is the crippled cousin of specism. The smartest dog is stupider than the average human. But the smartest person of the stupidest race is smarter than the average person of the smartest race. Unlike races, breeds of dogs are different enough to be deterministic. I assume that the fastest dachshund is not faster than the average greyhound. But the fastest member of the slowest race is faster than the average member of the fastest race. What this means is that if I am selecting people for any purpose, race is not deterministic so should not be used for selection. Instead I should test based on the purpose itself. If I am assembling a running team, I shouldn't just pick blacks because they are the fastest race. I should just test all candidates by timing their running speed.

Unlike the alt-right, I think Varg understands this. Varg has a different reason for preferring to live with whites, namely that they are most likely to share his genetics, so by helping them, he is helping his own genes. This is a valid argument. But at the same time, Varg recognizes that most whites are trash, so he specifically wants to live with quality whites. And again, this is something that the alt-right can't understand.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The smartest dog is stupider than the average human.

Not my Shelby, she was worth at least 3 average people.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Varg recognizes that most whites are trash, so he specifically wants to live with quality whites.

Because they're human. So the optimal response, imo, would be to reject the criminal and low quality races, as well as most whites. Sure, there'll be some false positives in the discard pile, but I take the same approach with potentially tainted foods. Not worth the risk.

Okay, okay, I sometimes fudge on the 5 second rule, and have eaten meat I forgot to put back in the fridge. There will always be 'some' exceptions.

What this means is that if I am selecting people for any purpose, race is not deterministic so should not be used for selection.

I'm not seeing it mean that, unless you're literally selecting and getting that fastest member.

Instead I should test based on the purpose itself.

Having accurate criteria is a valid approach. Make sure to include "won't come back to rob, rape, and murder me", as well as any other relevant criteria. This would eliminate blacks from consideration, as well as a number of other races. Like dog breeds, the variations among human races vary. Some breeds have few differences, others (like Abbos) are like different species.

Racism: the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities

I believe this is true for all races.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'll add playing victim to the list of your negative behaviour. 'You just insult me because I'm Jewish you don't insult the other guy wahhhh'. Again more typically Jewish behaviour. I've seen your own comments with my own eyes actively trying to get dissident right subs shut down here. /u/markimus has documented it.

We don't like you because you're a liar and a person trying to shut down the ways we communicate. If you werent Jewish you'd get the exact same treatment you repulsive creature.

Scurry off back to your sad little existence pretending you're going to become a Mennonite and leave us in peace. Like so many of your kin you have this addiction seemingly to lurking in places you yourself despise and where you're despised.

Weird how you act so stereotypically Jewish in many ways. Almost like its inborn somehow. Scratch that actually only a moronic racist nazi like myself would have such a thought. :)

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

After all the inbreeding and murdering off of every jew that assimilates there's only one personality type for jews left. The schizophrenic, injured narcisssist.

Notice how our culture generally is taking on many of the traits of these things? What a coincidence jews run every institution giving them the ability to socialise everyone to be judaified.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Notice how our culture generally is taking on many of the traits of these things?

Slezkine isn't wrong the 20th century was the Jewish century and everyone became Judaized to one degree or another.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know who that is but he's right and basedpilled

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's a Jew who KMac quotes a lot in CofC. Basically says everything we do about Bolshevism, psychoanlysis, Boasian anthropology and other trends but he thinks they're great.