What is the Alt Right? (Varg)

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[–]DisgustResponse 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Then why is this sub named what it is?

Because that was the name of the old sub on reddit created many years ago. Probably should've been changed, but it is what it is.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Probably should've been changed, but it is what it is.

There was some disagreement among mods. Some wanted a change when we left Reddit; others did not. I think that 'dissident' is a better description of the group of thinkers that fall into our beliefs but 'alt right' only became a bad word because of psy ops to tarnish the group. 'Dissident' right is slightly more broad then the old alt right; but that's about the only difference.

I voted to keep 'alt right' because I wanted people to find us during the transition. I also like to keep the name because anybody 'offended' by the name probably isn't going to really take the time to learn about what we really believe anyway. It's a pre screening name. 'Alt right' is not offensive on it's face. Most names for white nationalism only become 'offensive' because the media decides it's offensive. Which puts us in the position of forcing us into re branding ourselves every 3-6 years. That's not good for marketing IMO.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

alt right makes me think it is derived from alternative right. An alternative to the establishment GOP which is weak and milquetoast. It also makes me think of the alternative rock musical genre, which was a new thing in the late 80s, and 90s, a nebulous term but people generally understood what it meant after listening to the music. I'm not comparing the right to rock just comparing it to the fact that the name might not be obvious just by looking at the words but it becomes obvious to anyone who pays a little attention to politics.

[–]fschmidt[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

What would you call this sub now?

I find "alt-right" to be a very useful label for Whites who think that nothing but race matters. Is there a better label for this?

[–]DisgustResponse 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

"DissidentRightDiscussion" would be a more accurate name for the sub and the label "dissident right" is a lot more broad and appealing, without the baggage that "alt-right" has.

And I can't speak for everyone obviously, but I don't think "nothing but race matters" describes that many people.

[–]fschmidt[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

"Dissident right" is too broad to be meaningful. Varg is dissident right. I am dissident right. Neither I nor Varg belong here.

"Nothing but race matters" perfectly describes most people here. They judge me entirely by my (Jewish) race, nothing else about me matters.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

People dislike you for your beliefs. You don't care if whites go extinct

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Unless my eyes have failed me, outside of some of the race mechanics, he's expressed similar views to the people here generally.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Bruh what? All he does is say everyone in the world is a moron except for him specifically. Who the fuck else says anything that retarded and delusional?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

He calls a lot of people out for doing retarded shit, yes. He finds worthiness in the old testament within Christianity, traditional values and traditional methods of performing jobs, and doesn't appreciate dumbasses-- pretty fucking similarly to a lot of the people in your sub sans the WN aspect of it, as far as I could tell. And most people are morons. Look at the shit we're into on a global scale. There's manipulation there, but people are evidently pleased as peach punch to put up with it because they're too busy with their electronics and dicks in their hands, or struggling to even exist.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I've known this guy for like 5 years and all he has ever done is attack forums and try to get them shutdown when they tell him to fuck off.

If he was just interested in pushing Ted/Varg/Amish style low tech living and making friends with people into that, people here generally would like him. This characterisation of him just being an honest nice guy looking for likeminded people whilst being just a bit judgmental of others is absolutely ridiculous. The guy is a typical venemous jew who just insults people out of the blue then plays the victim.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I didn't get and still don't have a notification for this, that's.. weird.

I've only seen what he's posted here, so I have no clue about your former problems with one another or whether or not he's done any of that. Everything that I've seen him post here has been consistent. After attempting to have a reasonable discussion with you the other day, it was met with a fond "seethe and dilate", so you'll have to understand that I question whether you're not just being hostile for the sake of being hostile.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I get some satisfaction from pissing off moronic lying scum like you.

They judge me entirely by my (Jewish) race, nothing else about me matters.

Do you think there may be a relationship between those statements?

I agree with Varg on this, and many of his other opinions. Don't remember his opinion of humanity in general, but it's true that somewhere between 85 to 99% of us should not exist. We could have been a successful mammal, but we chose suicide instead. Imagine any other mammals doing what humans are doing to both ourselves, and to our biome. 'We' would be outraged.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Eh, you know I feel relatively the same as you regarding population and useless breeding. Humans have too much variability on cognitive ability, value systems, morality systems, etc. Utopian societies where everyone functions harmoniously with one another, their roles, and the environment would require complete obedience and trust towards a governing force without question. I don't think we're capable of that, but I hate the idea of utopia because it sounds boring as fuck, so there's that. Collectivist societies are a step in the right direction, but everything ends up shat up by the power play and numbers game, or by the governing entities. If there are other societies around with a drive to spread out and into your society, and those societies outbreed your forces (as idiots do), then it's back to square one eventually. We can't really lobotomize human drive, and seemingly we're too fucking stupid to not repeat history, ad infinitum.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Well said. Wish I could find a way to ignore the existence of other people, because it seems impossible to ignore the Elephant in the room named Massive Human Stupidity. If you're not paying attention, it will damage or destroy you on a whim.

https://communities.win/c/NoNewNormal/p/13zzMOnA4V/dam-even-the-religious-have-turn/c/4JH5rtY6rVD

This comment resonates. (go to 10 minutes if you open that 'push for communism' link - They want your kids)

As you describe, there is no solution to this that would come from us, except possibly total global nuclear war that completely ends civilization. Outside of us, it's either going to be the return of Jesus, or the earth catastrophe cycle being real, and frying our planet sometime in the next 30 years. I'm liking how more and more evidence for that is even being admitted by the mainstream now.

It's a pretty dire situation. Go outside, and I guarantee 100% of everyone you see will either being tolerating this shit, or working to make it worse. Individually we can't kill enough of them, and collectively we're a species of retarded herd animals. Drugs and alcohol can only do so much to obscure reality, and it's only temporary. Actual stupidity works, but it's an unattractive alternative.

And on that pleasant note, we're getting our first rain of the season in Commiefornia. People who were living in the fire zones are now living in the mudslide zones. Wheee!

...HIGH SURF WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 11 PM THIS EVENING TO 11 AM PDT TUESDAY...

  • WHAT...For the High Surf Warning, dangerously large breaking waves of 20 to 30 feet, greatly increased coastal run up, strong rip currents and longshore currents, and increased risk of minor coastal flooding in low lying areas.

Surfers are loving it, but cold and wet is the opposite of what I like. Maybe I'll walk over tomorrow and check it out if there's a break in the rain. :)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you. Surprisingly, I'm finding people here and there that are making social existence a little more comfortable, but getting comfortable is usually when I'm assraped by something else. So what do we do to keep ourselves sane? It seems like being aware of it just creates an even bigger source of duress.

Well, I guess that guy on reddit got zooted. Guess that shows the rewards for acting out. Targeting the social sphere is probably an incredibly effective tactic. Reminds me of the social shaming tactics that women use when you step out of line. With so many people disconnected from in-person types of interaction and reliant on social media structures to communicate their every blessed thought, the threat of removal from that? Ooh, that'll knock the wings right off of a lot of folks.

It's pretty bad out there, but outside of a DIY lobotomy, looks like we're here for the ride. Drugs and alcohol are just sort of expensive and temporary numbing agents at best though. I can't understand how people get addicted to any of it, the benefits rarely surpass the feeling of lukewarm garbage.

Go be in the mud. Dive in, grip the earth between your fingers and just be free for the little pocket of time. I would kill to get out to the beach for a few hours, let me live vicariously through you. Just wash off really good, 'cause pinworms and whatnot.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Go be in the mud. Dive in, grip the earth between your fingers and just be free for the little pocket of time. I would kill to get out to the beach for a few hours, let me live vicariously through you. Just wash off really good, 'cause pinworms and whatnot.

You can't live vicariously through me with a deleted account. What am I going to do with all those pics I just transferred to my computer?

[–]shilldetector 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Nothing but race matters" perfectly describes most people here. They judge me entirely by my (Jewish) race, nothing else about me matters.

There's like 2 or 3 people that always get triggered by you and that seems to be based on past history with you. Most of the sub could care less about you, or the fact your Jewish.

I personally have zero problem with anyone individually because they're Jewish. My problem is with the segment of Jews that is totally obsessed with being Jewish and is at best passive aggressive towards non Jewish whites, and at worst utterly hostile to the point of advocating for policies or spreading propaganda they literally think will bring about whites extinction, and even then I dont give a shit about them unless they have enough actual wealth or power to help make it happen.

To the extent I have a problem with Jews who arent like that, it's that they dont police their own. The most hostile and aggressive among them are given positions of power and prestige in their global community, free from criticism and sanction. That means their powerful sociopaths become the rest of the worlds problem.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My problem is with the segment of Jews that is totally obsessed with being Jewish

The 99.99999% segment lol