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[–]Fonched 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Great explanation as to why this whole fed thing isn't weighted towards oppressing the left as a whole. Your view on how the DR has weakened on part of these fed events while the left has not is solid though.

Thanks for asking. I wouldn't mind if you can continue it anyway.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Alright cool. Without getting too personal, where do you stand politically? Maybe I'm reading into your flair too much but I'm assuming you're uncertain about your worldview. Can you expand on that a little?

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

For me, I have only been an average Dissident Right person for some time. The "On the fence" flair signifies that I have been doing some research into various talking points, including those often neglected by members of the DR that will determine where to go next. I have been working on this for a moment in here with my posts, therefore I am not involved with any subcultures or anything even deeply.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I got you. It seems like you're on a noble voyage, hopefully you will continue it with us. I can appreciate your approach to these matters.

So, to wrap up the fed conversation, just watch the recruitment ads for federal agencies. Both the FBI and the CIA have a very clear agenda they want to push. Even a cursory glance at these agencies breaks down all white supremacy arguments. It should also be pointed out that the things feds say never actually match up with things authentic nationalists say, and this is because they are trying to play a role, not because they actually believe what they are saying. For reference: does this look like white supremacy to you?

As for your spiritual journey, I'll preface this by saying there are a lot of people here that I agree with who are atheists. The relationship between religion, specifically Christianity, and dissident right politics is a little complicated. I do believe that Christianity is not just compatible with the third position, but validates and justifies the third position. This is because of my sincere belief in the Christian Trinitarian God and I believe Jesus died for our sins. If you are seeking Christianity, you will never be debated into accepting these beliefs, you have to truly accept these tenets in your heart. This is where your spiritual foundation should be, and everything else branches from this. Truthfully, the best way for you to do research on Christianity is to go to a church, attend a liturgical service, and speak with the parish priest. As an Orthodox Christian, I encourage you to find a Russian, Antiochian, or Serbian church and immerse yourself in our world. This is leagues better than getting lost in online Christianity, a lesson I had to learn a few years ago. I'm not telling you to stop reading material online, but it is very easy to get tunnel visioned on certain things that you miss the bigger picture, and it's usually more harmful for someone's religious journey than it is helpful.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Indeed, I plan to ask more questions and make new threads regarding my newest revelations, so that I can obtain answers to some of the most confounding questions, debate, and let the rest of the sphere know.

They most often make the case when they pull up those "Neo-Nazis employed by [insert government agency here]" articles, but mostly it's their first assumption when hearing about the entrapment cases if they're not denying it (the pushback when Tucker first reported on 1/6 FBI involvement, "The Far Right's Fear of Glowies" in The Atlantic).

Religion-wise, my discussion into what the Bible says on these subjects is about all I need to hear for now. I will try and practice more when I feel and have the time to do so.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You might not be surprised to know the history of feds involved in disrupting dissident politics goes back pretty far, as I've mentioned before. The FBI admits that more than 1/5 of KKK membership were feds (the real number is probably much higher). Federal involvement with leftist organizations has largely been memory holed which is regretful, as many authentic leftists were prosecuted after being entrapped by feds, something they tend to forget happened. And of course, now the narrative is that dissident right-wingers are paranoid about feds like they aren't actually a problem while simultaneously there are so many "white supremacists" within federal agencies. To use a cringe Orwell term, the doublethink is remarkable.

I am open to fielding questions about Christianity and the Bible. I'm not a theological expert but I do enjoy talking about this and presenting something I believe in.