Black Man Rapes Woman on Public Train, Media Complains People Stood by and Watched

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

He mods the same subsaidit that socks always promotes (he is the headmod), they're probably alts of the same guy or just upper middle class urbanite friends that watch CNN 24/7.

AmericanMuskrat is another mod from there that likes to troll this place in the exact same style socks and ActuallyNot does too. They're probably friends or alts of the same guy.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (12 children)

Lel, Muskrat is extremely transparent about a ton of things, even to a somewhat disgusting degree.

Did you guys start menstruating? What the hell is up with these witch hunts? They're different than the usual.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Lol yeah the community just one day for no reason at all decided to irrationally attack these people!

Where have I heard this narrative before?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

You're starting to haul in the normals now. It's irrational.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

What's normal about making completely nonsensical assertions and feigning incredulity when proven wrong, poking the bear and then reporting people who take the bait etc?

This sounds like good faith debate to you? I hope you're not actually this naive, I'd hate to think what kind of things women will do to you if you're unable to see flags this bright red.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

You're going to have people here with opinions that don't sidle up with yours, even among your own group. I'm not arguing the validity of some of your known and notorious trolls from your previous peddit spot. I'm pointing out that you're making irrational assumptions of users here being alts of other users because they're trolling. Reporting is a retarded copout either way, should be reserved for bots.

I hope you're not actually this naive, I'd hate to think what kind of things women will do to you if you're unable to see flags this bright red.

Nice. Are you trying to insult my masculinity?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I'm pointing out that you're making irrational assumptions of users here being alts of other users because they're trolling.

Maybe level up your reading comprehension. I simply said they're trolling, which they are. I said they could possibly be one guy with alts like the other user due to the similarity between their trolling styles. It is not irrational because it's well informed and it's not an assumption because I assumed nothing, I simply stated a possibility.

Nice. Are you trying to insult my masculinity?

No. I literally said exactly 1:1 what I meant, that you're naive if you think people trolling for >1 year are honest actors. Again, level up your reading comprehension.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It is not irrational because it's well informed and it's not an assumption because I assumed nothing, I simply stated a possibility.

AmericanMuskrat is another mod from there that likes to troll this place in the exact same style socks and ActuallyNot does too. They're probably friends or alts of the same guy.

It's not well informed if you make every effort possible to ignore these people's activity outside of your sub.

I literally said exactly 1:1 what I meant, that you're naive if you think people trolling for >1 year are honest actors.

Then why use that example?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It's not well informed if you make every effort possible to ignore these people's activity outside of your sub.

I spoke only of their activities in this sub as a moderator of this sub, I have absolutely zero interest in this website or these users outside of this sub which I moderate.

Then why use that example?

Why not? Having the inability to see massive red flags in people's behaviour IE being naive would certainly have expression in your romantic life. If this particular example upsets you, you can imagine that I said you will be routinely ripped off by shysters or something.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You're making a potential case of those users being dishonest/having alts by nature of bringing it up though. Your other users are going to be able to see that, and the ones with lower quality critical thinking skills might jump to conclusions and start on the accusation train. Before you consider anyone posting here as doing so in bad faith or under other alts, it seems reasonable that you (in your role as mod) to go research the user in question outside of your sub-- especially before openly commenting about it.

Why not? Having the inability to see massive red flags in people's behaviour IE being naive would certainly have expression in your romantic life. If this particular example upsets you, you can imagine that I said you will be routinely ripped off by shysters or something.

My initial response regarding masculinity was a joke that went over your head. It also proves to me that you don't really know anything about the userbase (outside of regulars) unless they pop up on your radar.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

My personal opinion is that saidit DAR needs to be cleaned up. It's a debate sub, so dissenting opinions should be welcome, but users who visit the sub only to troll or mostly to troll, fill the page space with walls of nonsense. With so few legit users, a handful of trolls and their alts can consume our sub. This is what has happened. The altright loves to debate, but not with intentionally obtuse, intellectually dishonest trolls. If we want to grow this sub, the trolls like u/socks and these others have to go. Look at his comments. It's bait, after bait, after bait.

Banning u/ayotollahsinran and his various alts was a good start, but it just riled up the rest of the trolls. Look at how triggered they got from his doxxing and ban.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I agree with you, the admins here like taking the side of trolls over the userbase though which makes it difficult to ban people without them coming for our sub.

If we want to ban people we have to have basically endless examples of them doing egregious shit, even then magnora7 might just randomly ignore it all and declare that we're the real trolls and they're innocent victims of us. Funny how much the situation parallels anyone who ever defends themselves from jews, almost as if that's exactly what's happening.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well, thanks for at least cutting down on some of the noise by getting rid of that sexual weirdo.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The only troll in the attacks on that user was you, which is what I pointed out. You did not respond much to his initial comments and instead focused only on your attacks of him. It also doesn't matter who he is, if we're all supposed to be anonymous. Trying to ban people just because you don't like them is juvenile. Live and let live.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ayotollahs turned out to be a salos alt. This was proven here. Ayotollahs is now banned according to the mods. You're welcome.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say that's pretty good evidence. I tried to follow the arguments and evidence, but initially didn't see anything odd, and I felt sorry for this wierdo who seems to have mommy issues, and wanted to defend him, because this seemed like a witch-hunt. Congrats on your instincts and research.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

users who visit the sub only to troll or mostly to troll, fill the page space with walls of nonsense. With so few legit users, a handful of trolls and their alts can consume our sub. This is what has happened.

I could go to reddit if I wanted to browse garbage. (Which I don't)

Either stop feeding the trolls, or keep feeding them, depending on what kind of results you want.