Why are leftists obsessed with asserting that solidly leftist politicians are really "center right at best"?

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So what? They were measures put in place by the oligarchy to release pressure. If you simply google 'FDR save capitalism' you find endless stuff about how his goal and accomplishment was to save capitalism.

Actual fascists and populists saw right through the New Deal at the time. They were half measures meant solely to pacify the population.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The Nazi press enthusiastically hailed the early New Deal measures:

America, like the Reich, had decisively broken with the "uninhibited frenzy of market speculation." The Nazi Party newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, "stressed 'Roosevelt's adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies,' praising the president's style of leadership as being compatible with Hitler's own dictatorial Führerprinzip" (p. 190).

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yeah USA, USSR, Nazi Germany, all realized it was a good idea. They fought anyway, despite having the same political and economic systems. It was a phony war.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe wars have nothing to do with internal policy? Even if it was true their governments and economies were identical (they weren't), that would have literally no bearing on whether they would go to war or not.

A state cares about its interests, not whether or not its enemies have a similar internal organisation. They go to war due to conflicting interests, not conflicting ideology.