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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

So what? They were measures put in place by the oligarchy to release pressure. If you simply google 'FDR save capitalism' you find endless stuff about how his goal and accomplishment was to save capitalism.

Actual fascists and populists saw right through the New Deal at the time. They were half measures meant solely to pacify the population.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The Nazi press enthusiastically hailed the early New Deal measures:

America, like the Reich, had decisively broken with the "uninhibited frenzy of market speculation." The Nazi Party newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter, "stressed 'Roosevelt's adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies,' praising the president's style of leadership as being compatible with Hitler's own dictatorial Führerprinzip" (p. 190).

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I know and it changes nothing that the Germans were diplomatic. I'm referring to those inside America who opposed capitalism like Huey Long, Father Coughlin, Francis Parker Yockey etc. not the Third Reich that were trying to not be sanctioned to death and have their cities firebombed.

There's also this Goebbels interview with an American

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Famously as well that's the interview where the photo was taken of goebbels allegedly scowling after having just being told the person photographing him was Jewish. Total bullshit of course he has the same stern expression during the entire interview as he does in the photo but people still share it on Facebook or quora 80 years later as if it's true.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Liberals are the living refutation of the Cartesian axiom 'I think, therefore I am.' Liberals do not think, yet they are.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for the link. Very interesting.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I can't find the full interview anymore sadly though. Blackpill of the day for me.

Whitepill of the day, guess the full clip is only the part in that video. I thought it would be longer.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

yeah USA, USSR, Nazi Germany, all realized it was a good idea. They fought anyway, despite having the same political and economic systems. It was a phony war.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

despite having the same political and economic systems

Nonsense.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sutton's next three published books (Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street and FDR and Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler) detailed Wall Street's involvement in the Bolshevik Revolution to destroy Russia as an economic competitor and turn it into "a captive market and a technical colony to be exploited by a few high-powered American financiers and the corporations under their control"[9] as well as its decisive contributions to the rise of Adolf Hitler and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, whose policies he assessed as being essentially the same "corporate socialism," planned by the big corporations.[10] Sutton concluded that it was all part of the economic power elites' "long-range program of nurturing collectivism"[7] and fostering "corporate socialism" in order to ensure "monopoly acquisition of wealth" because it "would fade away if it were exposed to the activity of a free market."[11]

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe wars have nothing to do with internal policy? Even if it was true their governments and economies were identical (they weren't), that would have literally no bearing on whether they would go to war or not.

A state cares about its interests, not whether or not its enemies have a similar internal organisation. They go to war due to conflicting interests, not conflicting ideology.