Columbus Day isn't based

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[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Originally, "alt right" was supposed to mean a third positionist movement that would introduce people in the English speaking world to people like Alain de Benoist, but it ended up just meaning old-fashioned colonialist white nationalism.

You got it the other way around. The alt-right's main focal point used to be race realism/human biodiversity, the JQ, and being unapologetically pro-white (which also means being at least open to, if not outright supportive of, the idea of bringing back some form of white colonialism and global white hegemony).

In recent years, however, the alt-right has seen an ever-increasing (probably mostly astroturfed) influx of retards, schizos and shills injecting it with ridiculous LARP ideologies that suvbert the alt-right's original white nationalist character and intentions, and in many cases would be even explicitly harmful to white racial interests (i.e third worldism/Duginism, Islamism/"white sharia", primitivism/luddism, flat earth theory, boomer cuckservative religious fundamentalism, incel/anti-woman views, etc.).

Furthermore, it's kinda ironic how the very same people who most strongly hold the views you hate the most about the alt-right, such as Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer, are actually the ones who in part originally founded the alt-right to begin with.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada![S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Actually you are wrong. Here is Montsalvat's article: https://attackthesystem.com/2016/05/21/the-alternative-right-an-autopsy/

third worldism/Duginism

Third worldism is based. Duginism is a bogeyman used by neocon ZOG apologists, so it's based too because it makes all the right people seethe.

Islamism/"white sharia"

"White sharia" was a lame meme invented by some neocon ZOGbots and likely glowies on "The War Room", not by Andrew Anglin as is commonly believed. But solidarity with the Islamic struggle against globohomo is based.

primitivism/luddism

Nothing better than destroying the Aryan folk ways, folk soul and tribal culture in favor of globalism, muh progress and capitalist exploitation. BASED!

flat earth theory

Don't care about this, not a muh science fag though

boomer cuckservative religious fundamentalism

You're referring to Fuentes and the Groypers? Yeah they fucking suck. They're also some of the biggest Columbus/colonialism shills.

incel/anti-woman views

I was wondering if you were Brandon Martinez up to this point. Martinez is a hardcore incel but otherwise is on board with your views.

Richard Spencer

He used to be a pro-Russian Duginist who was sympathetic to the European New Right. Now he's just a midwit vaccine shilling liberal and probably a glowie.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Third worldism is based.

Being white but ethnomasochistic is based? If non-whites and governments of non-white countries that are anti-ZOG want to collaborate with us in fighting against ZOG, no problem, but they can't also be explicitly anti-white. Most non-whites however, even the ones who also supposedly hate the Jewish elites, will just laugh at you and spit in your face if you're white and try to pitch the idea of "muh one struggle" to them, and it's honestly laughable for those non-whites to claim to hate ZOG/the Jewish elites while also being anti-white, since anti-white ideology is literally the product of those same Jewish elites they claim to hate in the first place.

Duginism is a bogeyman used by neocon ZOG apologists, so it's based too because it makes all the right people seethe.

"The right people" being people who are unapologetically pro-white? I thought you considered yourself to be pro-white. Neocons are against Dugin because, according to them, Dugin is a "racist" white nationalist who wants Russia to annex Western Europe. People like me are against Dugin because we know he's anti-white, literally the opposite reason from why neocons are against him. The enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend, sometimes it's just another enemy.

primitivism/luddism

Nothing better than destroying the Aryan folk ways, folk soul and tribal culture in favor of globalism, muh progress and capitalist exploitation. BASED!

Such a pathethic strawman. Having modern industrial and advanced technology is totally separate from ZOG/globohomo and woke culture. You might as well say that using a AR to defend yourself against a murderer is being pro-ZOG, since ZOG also uses ARs to enforce their power. Being a primitivist/luddite and being pro-white are literally inherently contradictory, since getting rid of technology in white society will both cause mass-death and suffering among whites as well as leave us extremely vulnerable from external attacks. Other intelligent peoples, like the Jews and the Chinese, will never get rid of their technology like you insist us whites should do, so they could just come in and instantly BTFO us if we refuse to pursue the same technological innovations as them. I'm also pretty economically left-leaning, so your claim about capitalist exploitation doesn't make much sense either.

I was wondering if you were Brandon Martinez up to this point. Martinez is a hardcore incel but otherwise is on board with your views.

Isn't Brandon Martinez also unapologetically pro-white? In that case, I'm not really surprised that you equate me to him. I've indeed heard that he's very anti-woman, which is very cringe though.

He used to be a pro-Russian Duginist who was sympathetic to the European New Right. Now he's just a midwit vaccine shilling liberal and probably a glowie.

Funny enough, I also used to like him more in the past, and now don't like him anymore. Is he even still pro-white? He doesn't even come off as pro-white anymore nowadays. And although I disagree with Keith Woods pretty strongly (on mainly the same things I disagree with you), I also think it's very low how Richard Spencer constantly attacks Keith Woods nowadays.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who are some good alt righters that aren't also anti women?

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

As far as I know, pretty much all of the old guard pro-white alt-right figures, including but not limited to Jared Taylor, Richard Spencer, David Duke, Henrik Palmgren and Lana Lokteff, Millennial Woes and Mark Collett, have nothing against women. A more recent example would be CatboyKami. Being both pro-white and anti-woman is inherently contradictory anyways, and I suspect a lot of the anti-women stuff is probably coming from hapa, pajeet and mestizo incels, rather than genuine pro-whites.