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[–]shilldetector 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You are under the mistaken assumption that stumping liberals is difficult, and that if only we could do it we could change their minds. The reality is that to the extent liberals profess to believe in woke ideology, it is only because they either want to push an agenda themselves(Jewish liberals), want to avoid being a target by opposing current woke orthodoxy(your average white NPC shitlib), or want social credit or career points by pushing this ideology and/or targeting those who oppose it(the most toxic form of liberal there is, the woke ideologue/grifter, like Robin Deangelo, vaush, destiny, Tim Wise, most white antifa, etc).

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Tim Wise

I try to avoid as much as possible delving into motivations and the psychology underlying why people do what they do because at the end of the day it's just guessing and it bugs me when people apply it in a dishonest way to dismiss ideas. However I remember the day so clearly I realized Tim Wise was in that most toxic category of liberal you list. He was debating I think Jared Taylor and Taylor made a point we repeat a lot that racial solidarity is merely an extended form of familial solidarity and then he asked Wise whether he thought one should care about about their family more than their neighbours and why that meant that if he did he hated his neighbours. Wise actually responded without skipping a beat that he actually didn't believe it was ethical to care more for your family than a stranger. I was thunderstruck. No person believes this but because he's one of the utterly toxic ones who knows he's lying, likes to lie and will do anything to maintain his ridiculous worldview and the filthy lucre he makes from the system he can sit there without flinching saying the most insane things imaginable.

I can forgive an NPC and even someone who is just going along to get along in this system while accepting its dogmas. There's no punishment that's fitting for the last type you list though.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Link to Taylor vs. Wise debate?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think they've actually debated twice but I've no idea if they're still on YouTube. Just do a search for it.