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[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

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I accidentially deletedd my comment, in order to write a better comment that's not so sarcastic. I had no idea you'd respond so quickly. But the same comment still applies:

Again - I am mentioning the law. If there is suspected racial bias in a jury process, this too is against the law.

If we want to talk about racial bias (INSTEAD of the law), whites are historically and still given preferential treatment in court, and especially whites who can afford a lawyer. The real bias in courts is against those who cannot afford lawyers.

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

whites are historically

"Historically" is a deflection term the way you're using it. What matters is the current era because people have to live in the current era.

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Thanks for all of this, Yin. I appreciate that there are biases in the "justice" system, The legal standards for, or formulas for dealing with, something like 2nd degree murder or even 2nd degree manslaughter are however rather uncontroversial, though whites like George Zimmerman can stalk and kill children like Trayvon Martin, without punishment:

In a widely reported trial, Zimmerman was charged with murder for Martin's death, but acquitted at trial after claiming self-defense. The incident was reviewed by the Department of Justice for potential civil rights violations, but no additional charges were filed, citing insufficient evidence.

This is but one of many old cases, and I do think there was racial bias in the courtroom, against Martin. Regardless of all this, I'd like to move on to other threads.....

[–]Yin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

stalk and kill children like Trayvon Martin

Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman violently.

If someone attacks you violently and shows no indication of stopping, defending yourself with lethal force is intelligent.

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though whites like George Zimmerman can stalk and kill children like Trayvon Martin, without punishment:

Do my eyes deceive me? I'm not even trying to be an asshole about this, but that man looks like he just scaled the border wall in a business suit.

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Oops - I forgot to put the link to that quotation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Trayvon_Martin

Good question about his race, as many have been curious. He has a German name (supposedly not Jewish), is half Peruvian, half white, and went to a Catholic school and church. His trial angered blacks because it added to other previous cases where whites were not convicted of stalking and murdering, even if by accident, thereby allowing this tradition to continue. If Zimmerman had been black and Martin white the stalking and murdering would have been treated differently, many argue.

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But would it have played out the same if Martin were half peruvian and Zimmerman were black? The amount of media attention this case got was very strange, or at least it seems that way to me considering how much gun violence we have in the states. That said, it's a shame that society attempts to protect those that seek or attempt to harm others with violence

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Good point - perhaps not as much media attention if this had been a black on hispanic crime, as this is arguably more common in some parts of the US. There is a similar problem with missing person reports for blond girls vs. any other description of person. The MSM thrives on appeals to public prejudice, much of which is natural/psychological in different countries, and much of it manufactured in those specific regions for centuries.