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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Reifenstahl is an exception because her technique overshadows the politics -- funnily enough I credit Triumph Of The Will as being a large part of why I became Dissident Right.

I get what you mean though. Perhaps it's better to say that genius can transcend naked ideologically driven works but any less than genius and the work becomes sour. Eisenstein would be another example I guess of a filmmaker whose ability transcends his obvious political message.

[–]Richard_Parker[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I do think it is an exception. A lot of the neo folk martial industrial that is overtly na is not very good. There is also beauty, artists value in those works that transcends the politics, propaganda, and ideology. Do you like Death In June?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Do you like Death In June?

I'll have to check them out. Admittedly though a lot of 'our guy' stuff has left me unmoved. By that I mean I didn't like it or dislike it I just wasn't inspired by it. Laibach, Saga, Skrewdriver and others definitely have merit -- Ode To a Dying People still makes me teary eyed -- but I don't find myself gravitating towards the explicitly political and find the perennial much more interesting if that makes sense.

[–]Richard_Parker[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Only bother if you like indie, post pink, goth etc. If Joy Division or the Cure (through Disintegration) are not your thing, don't bother. It is not entirely settled that Douglas P is a Nazi, but he is certainly fascinated and even enamored with the time period. Some of his comments indicate things took a wrong turn after the Night of the Long Knives with murder of Ernst Röehm. Like Röehm, Douglas is also gay. Most of the later stuff is garbage. The Corn Years, Cathedral of Tears two best albums. Some good songs from Guilty Have No pAst and A (studio side) of Burial. Operation Hummingbird and Take Carr and Control were a return to form with a somewhat different sound with Albino Julius collaborating.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Joy Division is my all time favourite band so I'll have to have a listen.

[–]Richard_Parker[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you were in my neck of the woods Iwould d buy you a drink. Be sure to adhere to y recommendations bc later DIJ stuff not all that great. O would start with Brown Book/ Corn Years. I first started listening to Joy Division when I was 14. I discovered Death inJune at sixteen, just after my German girlfriend flee bald to Germany. Was supposed to spend the summer off but she called it off at the last minute and in subsequent years she became enamored with "Jamaican" culture. Saw her again several years later she was unrecognizable, the symmetry of her face was disrupted. She told me it was from "schweren Drogen."

This is Europa: To Gates of Heaven.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EEFyrSAfymw

By all means try and get better resolution, although the less than optimal sound engineering leads something to de desired on high resolution audio. Pm if you need help finding a way to sample it.

Also, Zimmerit, although very short probably more polished: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qyOb5CysYuU

Rose McDowell was the ultimate hot goth chick in her day, and it's pretty clear she always right-thinking and sympathetic tomcat right nationalism.

[–]Richard_Parker[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Incidentally, this may interest you. I actually wrote this, under the pen name Ian Carlyle, which was lost while being archived. Spencer is not admirable....

https://radixjournal.com/2014/07/2014-7-27-the-whiteness-of-goth/