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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

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[–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (8 children)

I don't really feel its right to celebrate these agents losing their lives. They had loved ones, thoughts,ambitions etc, really they were just following orders. There are people who do deserve to have a celebrated death but I don't feel these agents deserve it.

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

yes Salos, we understand you don't want to shit on your dead coworkers.

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[–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's new one I'm CIA now.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

These are people whose entire life is orientated around creating as much suffering and exploitation in the world as possible. They deserve worse than death and they'll be receiving it in hell for eternity.

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[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Their lives were forfeit the moment they pledged alliegence to the GAE.

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Ok bootlicker

[–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fuck the CIA, still doesn't mean we should shit talk the dead.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Happy Hanukkah

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

What does "S" mean? Seems different than "/s".

[–]Nombre27 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Press S to spit, i.e. spit on their graves.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

TIL. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good news, glad for china and iran.

[–]Tarrock 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]NeoRail 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

There was this guy who used to document CIA fails on Twitter. The impression I got was that they were always like this. Just a bunch of useless, cocaine addicted frat boys coasting on infinite money.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They overthrew dozens of regimes in the past and assassinated hundreds. They weren't incompetent in days past.

[–]NeoRail 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's hard to be ineffective with an enormous budget. Effectiveness is not necessarily the same as competence, however.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They overthrew dozens of regimes in the past and assassinated hundreds. They weren't incompetent in days past.

They failed to overthrow Fidel Castro, who was right next door to the U.S.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My understanding is that an anon exposed one of their image manipulation techniques when they analyzed a recent missing person case. This supposedly caused a cascade of events.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

"CIA admits"

[–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

In 2019, former CIA officer Jerry Chun Shing Lee was sentenced to 19 years in prison for providing secrets to the Chinese government, which they then used to arrest and execute at least 20 of his fellow agents.

US officials suspect China shared the information Lee gave them to Russia, who used it to expose, arrest and kill American spies.

Those findings led the CIA to temporarily shut down human spying in China and reevaluate how it communicates with intelligence assets worldwide.

Damn, those are some major fuckups.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Diversity hires are paying off!

[–]aukofthecovenantWhite man with eyes 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The memo reprimands spies for poor tradecraft, being overly trusting of sources, underestimating foreign intelligence agencies and 'putting mission over security' by moving too fast and not paying enough attention to potential risks.

Prosperity and liberalism seem to breed people who expect things always to go right. We're now seeing the consequences of that in the spy services.

[–]introspeck 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The FBI of Hoover's day was far more competent in PR and taking credit for the work of others. But they were somewhat competent at running 'agents provocateur' and false flag operations 50 years ago. Now every one starts to fall apart before their cases even reach trial.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is good for US dissidents as a less competent deep state means the regime will be less effective in pursuing its agenda

Have you considered that expiring excess staff is part of their agenda?

Play the wounded animal, let our "mortal enemies" draw blood. That eliminates the threat from possible rogue trustees. Meanwhile, fill your ranks with easily-manipulated cannon fodder who operate the tools of war really doing the job.

Downsizing done another way might raise conflict from within the ranks.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They wouldn't let their spy networks get destroyed on purpose. Thats nonsense.

The CIA doesn't have money problems, either: They have multiple sources of revenue outside of their government budget. Remember, they ran the opium fields in Afghanistan. The CIA was very unhappy when the U.S. military withdrew.

There is no secret plan at work here, they just got outsmarted.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's more than one front in their war. Conflict with the FBI seems to peak through here and there. They don't need the same types of spy networks to fight that.

I just don't buy disclosing this so widely without ulterior motive. And the NYT is intimate with the decision-makers involved.

Contrary to the tweeter's thoughts, I do buy the idea they're all incompetent. But they also have plans and move all at once. And the trend since Bush has been to look weak, bumbling, and fragile in affairs that make no ultimate difference.