Opinion thread: When and how will America collapse?

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[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

It's not going to collapse the way you suggest. It will slowly turn into Brazil, then South Africa. Most 3rd world shitholes around the world haven't collapsed, they just function at the default state for the dominant race that lives there.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

It will slowly turn into Brazil,

I truly believe that the remaining whites will simply not allow that to happen. Many of the boomers are beginning to radicalize and as long as the jab doesn't kill them all off they still have control over a lot of assets that they can move around and cause headaches for the social engineering class. The elites are trying to figure out a way to get this wealth out of boomer hands before they implode everything.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

what can boomers do, too old. It is up to younger men who are cops and military. Right now they go along with it lockstep.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

what can boomers do, too old

The anti-boomer thing is a psyop. I have my anger towards this generation (just like almost everyone else my age) but they are still alive, mostly white, they have money, land, skills (agricultural, military, carpentry, electrical, plumbing, etc). We should not totally just write these people off. Even if 20% percent of them go boomer waffen that's a huge chunk of money and people that can help our cause. Obviously the younger people will do most of the work but it's silly to say these people cannot help us as all.

Right now they go along with it lockstep.

Even 6 months ago I would have agreed but I'm constantly around boomers and I see opinions changing among many of them. If Rick Wiles is any indication the boomers are on a very radical path. Many of them still remember a time that whites were not hated, not over taxed, not threatened with anarcho tyranny and lawfare, etc. They especially grew up in a time where property rights were foundational. The fact that the US government could start taxing unrealized gains on assets is a huge redpill to boomers.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

true, a psyop, I wouldn't totally write them off but in terms of "remaining whites not allowing this to happen" meaning fighting back, the boomers are too old, can't ignore the effect age has. A big reason for the USA's success economically since the 60s were the boomers then were young, active, hard working, smart, etc I could go on. Just not the case now as they age. The younger generations are not like the young boomers. Not right now anyway. So we are seeing a lot of decline and decadence.

That jan 6 thing briefly made me think young folks might be stepping up but it was clownish and not much happened since. I guess I'm being too negative. But I'm tryint to look for facts, cognizant evidence of what you're saying.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Many of them still remember a time that whites were not hated, not over taxed, not threatened with anarcho tyranny and lawfare, etc.

Apartheid South Africa, Rhodesia & the Portuguese colonies all existed in their lifetimes, yet how many of them volunteered to defend those countries instead of being sent off to Vietnam or some other pointless war?

Boomers served their purpose in terms of keeping America alive, but I would never trust them to handle race going forward. Few exceptions exist, like Jared Taylor, but that's a man who recognized the crisis since day one.

There's also the issue that their generational brainwashing is too strong. Boomers grew up on Television and devoted their entire lives to what the cable news tells them. The younger generations are mostly weened off this influence, or have been forced to live next to "diversity" that makes denying the truth impossible.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

All very true but I'm hoping there are a portion of them that will be able to reason through things and racialize. People also say liberals are impossible to racialize but that's just not the case. It's going to be a very real survival situation everyone soon and I doubt the propaganda will hold up that well when they become pariahs to everyone. The same way it's difficult to stay an atheist in a foxhole it's going to be difficult to remain egalitarian when groids are shooting at you and 5 Guatemalan families are living in the house next to you and the government is seizing your bank account for facebook rants.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Boomers are already entering retirement homes, or have onset health issues like dementia or diabetes.

I actually think it's immoral to put them on the frontlines when you factor in the above. They are this generation's Paul von Hindenburg.

Let them retire and someone else can do the job for them.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Boomers are already entering retirement homes, or have onset health issues like dementia or diabetes.

The youngest boomers are in their late 50's. There are something like 70 million boomers. That's a lot of people that haven't even reached retirement age much less retirement homes.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

People in their 50s can still be in retirement homes. I worked with a guy who is 56, bound to a wheelchair and needs a PSW to help feed him or change his diapers.

And depending on what job they did in life, their bodies will break down faster. Like you brought up people who work in the trades (i.e carpentry, electrician), they had a time where they peaked but start complaining they're not as active as they once were.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most people in their 50's are not in retirement homes. Also the boomer generation holds something like 17% of all wealth. Millinials 3%. It's important that these people do not lose their wealth to the parasite class. This wealth needs to move properly down to younger (hopefully nationalistic/racialized) white families. Part of ensuring the wealth transfer is red pilling boomers and not just ignoring them.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hollywood has no celebrities that are in my own younger generation that are at least right-leaning, let alone a few Boomer-aged leftover rights in that industry.

[–]shilldetector 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The nation is expected to reach 100 trillion in debt in a little over a decade. Tell me how that is sustainable? America has numerous potentially catastrophic problems brazil never had.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It wouldn't turn into South Africa and probably not even Brazil. The US has a mean black ancestry of ~10% because the 13.4% black population is 25% white on average. Brazil has 19.6% mean black ancestry, almost twice as much as the US.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This argument assumes the racial demographics won't get worse, which might not be correct. We have no idea what hordes american leftists will import next or in what quantity.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We have no idea what hordes american leftists will import next or in what quantity.

Something a lot of people are not paying attention to is the Canadian border. Canada acts as a giant conduit for Indian & Chinese immigrants, who then walk across the border to America in favor of higher salaries/cheap cost of living.

In fact, there's no telling if Canada may actually collapse first because the country is farther down the line in white genocide. When the country falls, there's now millions of Brown people ready to rush the border and claim asylum in the U.S.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

At least Brazil is known to have some nice women. Access to even the primal urge to lust or f**** for men in America is shoddy and few and far at best. Even though I'm trying to still have faith in believing that not literally every single or partnered woman under 40-or-so is the stereotyped slut that implicitly or explicitly loathes men as a gender and is just a casual sex rider and has no desire for relationship proper. Again, my environment has been living in a metro area where outside the main city is suburban or semi-rural, and a few surrounding counties are even less populated. Maybe it's more of an "epidemic" if you live in a busier part of the country.

  • Rambled off into an unrelated tangent there

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Plenty of good women here, you just have to look in the right places.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I said that because I read about other men being bitter toward all women today as if it is pandemic across the whole US population.