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[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

I don't know about "WeestGang", but I just checked his profile and he definitely also seems like a troll/shill. "Courbeaux" is probably the same person as "Noloben", and possibly also "valkyria1488" (I thought there were more of them, but those three are the only ones I can recall off the top of my head). All three of those accounts were self-proclaimed Duginist NazBols, constantly celebrated white criminals and prison gangs, and "white trash" culture, and insisted we should ally ourselves with them and talked about how people who support any type of legal system or police force (even for in a white ethnostate) are anti-white because that would also get white criminals killed or imprisoned, and all three of them behaved very similarly in general. I really doubt whether Salos is also behind Courbeaux/Noloben/valkyria1488 though, those accounts seem to be run by a different troll, judging by the behaviour (or Salos must have really good acting skills).

[–]shilldetector 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Its possible those two are blork3d/soylent alts. On reddit it was suggested salos and blork were the same person as they would respond to each other on troll posts on alt right subs, but they may just be different trolls that knew each other online and worked together as they do have different styles.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

I don't really believe Salos and u/Soylent (Blork3D) are the same person at all. As far as I know, Soylent/Blork3D used to be something like a woke shitlib years ago (which a lot of us used to be before we started to become pro-white), and used to troll our sub back then (before I was even part of this sub), but has since bettered his life and now more or less holds the same views as us (similarly to u/radicalcentrist, who also came here as a shitlib last February but has since gradually become pro-white), so I don't really have an issue with him anymore. When Soylent/Blork3D replies to Salos, this could just be genuine disagreement on his part, and I can't imagine he'd put so much effort in those replies if he was just another alt account run by the same person as Salos.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't really believe Salos and u/Soylent (Blork3D) are the same person at all.

Agreed.

but has since bettered his life and now more or less holds the same views as us (similarly to u/radicalcentrist,

Agreed. /u/radicalcentrist and /u/blork3d are tolerable. The only thing about radical centrist that gets under my skin is the vax shilling and inability to address counter arguments that people are giving him. He hasn't crossed over into anti debate tactics though and for now the vax shilling is not a bannable offense. I do see a time in the near future where it may become one though.

[–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There was other evidence they were the same person. For instance both would frequently cite a sub rule being supposedly broken. They would do this as it could be used on reddit(and potentially here) to ban a sub. This was at least part of the reason they would make troll posts in an effort to get someone to break a "rule" and then use moderator inaction to appeal for a ban.

Blork had an obvious style that was as easy to distinguish as salos, so when blork and a couple of his alts got banned, salos popped up and it was speculated the salosisms were blorks attempt at dumbing himself down using the same strange sayings and typos. Who knows. It all sounds like a lot just to troll subs hardly anyone sees, but one of the characteristics of antifa/jewish activist types is their obsessive neurosis.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

U/radicalcentrist flipped too quickly and was also trolling. He also posts questions that he already knows the obvious answer to. I would guess he's mining something here or trying to provoke certain responses.

[–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah radicalcentrist is most likely not genuine. People change their minds, but it doesnt suddenly happen one day, and they dont go from one political extreme to the other, and it wasnt like there was some national events that would bring about a total reversal like the floyd riots did for some, he just one day flipped a switch and started arguing the very same points he stubbornly refused to acknowledge had any merit. When I looked at some of his early debates here he looked like the online version of Max Boot or Jennifer Rubin. Then like a week later he turns into Andrew Anglin.

Some of his posts and comments remind me of what a Jewish neoliberal thinks the alt right believes. For instance in his the wrong side won ww2 post the FIRST thing he lists as the number one negative effect of ww2 is the eventual destruction of Rhodesia? lmao. Jewish liberals seem to think Rhodesia figures greatly into alt right thinking for some bizarre reason. I guess because some old school white nationalists use to talk about it.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I totally agree now though I've defended him in the past. There's no organic shift or steps in between his wild swings in positions. It's literally just that one day a flick switches and now all of a sudden he's saying things that an AI algorithm thinks an alt-right person might say despite often previously having radically different positions.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Spooling up /nazibot/radicalfag.exe

/scanning for post topic

//topic found

Print(string(nazi post)

Text: "Why aren't black africans being held accountable for slavery?"

Spooling down "beeooooooowwwww"

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some of his posts and comments remind me of what a Jewish neoliberal thinks the alt right believes. For instance in his the wrong side won ww2 post the FIRST thing he lists as the number one negative effect of ww2 is the eventual destruction of Rhodesia? lmao. Jewish liberals seem to think Rhodesia figures greatly into alt right thinking for some bizarre reason. I guess because some old school white nationalists use to talk about it.

Assuming u/radicalcentrist and his sudden change in political views are genuine, he might've actually picked up the bit about Rhodesia from me. I regularly talk about Rhodesia (as well as Apartheid South Africa), about how I think it was a shining example of how a country or territory with a white minority and a black majority should be organized, and I also specifically mentioned Rhodesia and Apartheid South Africa a lot in my first discussions with radicalcentrist back last February.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly, ^ what do you think u/yoramrw, shilldetector makes a good case.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not fully convinced u/radicalcentrist is necessarily a shill, but it's definitely at least peculiar how his views changed so drastically in such a short period of time, hence why I asked him to explain himself earlier in this thread.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

he was making pro china shill posts yesterday. slipped up.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's possible, but I don't really see how a troll/shill starting out as a shitlib and then changing his persona into a white nationalist would benefit the left. Usually when the left wants to "deradicalize" people like us and sabotage our communities, they'll do the opposite, pretending they used to be one of us but "escaped the rabbit hole" (i.e: "Faraday Speaks").

You have to keep in mind that a lot of us used to be shitlibs/leftists, or at least some type of liberal or normie cuckservative, ourselves before we started to develop awareness of the attack on white people and started to develop more white ingroup preference as a result, so it could just be the case that radicalcentrist is genuine but just late to the party.

To u/radicalcentrist, maybe it's the best if you explain for yourself what caused you to change your political views in such a short period of time.

[–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Usually when the left wants to "deradicalize" people like us and sabotage our communities, they'll do the opposite, pretending they used to be one of us but "escaped the rabbit hole" (i.e: "Faraday Speaks").

One of the reasons I think a lot of these shills might be blork3d is I remember him being obsessed with psychology, like he was studying it in college, along with the fact he was a druggie. Add those together and look at some of the things he was caught doing on reddit and it suggests he is the type of person who would play bizarre games because he thinks he's using different kinds of reverse psychology or whatever. In the end he's just being a fucking weirdo, but he probably thinks it's super clever.

I guess it ultimately doesn't matter. I just find left wing shills very revealing. It was the extreme and prolific shilling and subversion trolls on reddit that helped awaken me to just how dysfunctional and neurotic left wing ideology has become. In so many ways it's very much a reflection of some of the worst aspects of Jewish culture, probably because it stems from it. I can't imagine visiting left wing shitlib subs in disguise in order to trigger myself and subvert them. It's such a bizarre and unhealthy mentality on so many levels, and yet you saw this continually on reddit and other websites.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Lol, valkyria1488, its like a newbie at the FBI picking a username. I think valkyria is a salos alt. Also, u/Radicalcentrist is suspect as well, since he started off here as a leftist troll, then flipped.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I doubt whether "valkyria1488" is Salos. His/her/xir/its behavior and writing style are both very different from that Salos. "valkyria1488" also had a different writing style and persona from Courbeaux/Noloben, playing more of a low-IQ meth-addicted trailer park skinhead character, whereas Courbeaux/Noloben acted as a more intellegent Duginist NazBol LARPer, but in essence all three of them spewed the same talking points and used similar rhetoric.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I thought we caught valkyria using "yous" but maybe im wrong.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've just search "valkyria1488"'s profile, but I didn't find any "yous". He/she/xir/it did, however, constantly bring up the exact same talking points as Courbeaux/Noloben, and similarly accused anyone who disagreed with him/her/xir/it of being anti-white or a ZOG shill.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're probably right. Too many troll accounts, i cant keep up with them all.