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[–]MagicMike 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

USA goes to shit about every 80 years: war, depression, hatred of government. 1781, 1861, 1941, 2021. Let the shit show come to full blast.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I wonder if that has anything to do with the old adage that wealth skips a generation.

[–]MagicMike 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The pattern has been traced back to the year 1584. Goggle ‘The Fourth Turning’. We are living through a 4th turning now.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Is this what you're referecing?

https://infogalactic.com/info/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory

(I've never heard of it directly. Looks interesting. Thanks for sharing.)

Unraveling According to Strauss and Howe, the Third Turning is an Unraveling. The mood of this era they say is in many ways the opposite of a High: Institutions are weak and distrusted, while individualism is strong and flourishing. The authors say Highs come after Crises, when society wants to coalesce and build and avoid the death and destruction of the previous crisis. Unravelings come after Awakenings, when society wants to atomize and enjoy.[40] They say the most recent Unraveling in the US began in the 1980s and includes the Long Boom and Culture War.[21]

It's interesting it always falls apart when we hit peak individualism. We see that pattern all over history.

The book The Fate of Empire by Sir John Bagot Glubb goes into this a bit.

https://saidit.net/s/runebooks/comments/5l6e/the_fate_of_empires_and_search_for_survival_sir/

There's a youtuber named coach redpill that discusses this in a good video but for the life of me I can't find it right now.

[–]MagicMike 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Probably got censored.

Yes, Strauss and Howe wrote a mass market book about cycles in history.

My personal belief is that, like an infection, altruism is causing the current crisis: civic decay is caused by putting perverts and minorities on a pedestal.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My personal belief is that, like an infection, altruism is causing the current crisis: civic decay is caused by putting perverts and minorities on a pedestal.

It's multivariable but you're right about that one. When you factor in the widespread atomization (libertarian/bootstrap economic atomization, feminism and the destruction of the family, atheism and community isolation, others?, etc.; basically all a different form of applied critical theory).

Looking at how chaotic the world has become isn't surprising when you consider how unraveled it is.

[–]MagicMike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, and when chaos reigns, authoritarianism flourishes. However this cycle ends, war or depression or maybe both, governments will want to control all the chaos with 24/7/365 surveillance. It’s a bad scenario.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Had that book and then lent it to a friend to never be seen again.

It ties in with Evola/Spengler (or whoever is the source) cyclical concept of history, but at a more micro level. Overcoming entropy is challenging, and there exist more probabilities that lead to failure than ones that lead to success.

The bit on archetypes and the generational relationships that are created is probably more true than it isn't. Not really much different from the strong men fixing hard times meme, just with a more modern sociological analysis.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory#Archetypes

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I only lurk pol, wasn't me.