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[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Jewish

Sigh. I think I've given up on France at this point

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why? France has the biggest nativist movement in the West. Nowhere in the Western world are our ideas as mainstream as they are in France. No other Western country has been able to resist Americanization to such an extent. Are you American?

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I was being a bit sarcastic, didn't really expect this low-effort comment to be upvoted. But:

Their demographics aren't great and Le Pen hasn't won since I've cared and doesn't look she ever will. She's not as based as people make her out to be either. Then having a Jew undercut her as a further-right candidate going into round one is concerning and suspect. It's frankly embarrassing whites can't even stand up for themselves in their own homelands and need someone else to do it for it them. Maybe Zemmour is genuine, but I know better than to expect that. Macron will probably just win again

Yes, and the US is worse - but I've already given up on democratic solutions here. My understanding is Benelux is worse than France but still better than us

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Mike enoch talked about zemmour being a spoiler candidate for le pen, set up by the Js

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You still listen to TRS?

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why would we not?

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I was talking to caspar.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It looked like an accusation. I was curious so I commented in the thread.

If it was intended to be private you could have just sent him a PM

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fair enough.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I dropped it for a while in annoyance of their covid counter signalling. But recently they've come around and taken the right position on vaccines.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So they're even more retarded now.

[–]lokke767 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Zemmour seems incredibly based to me, I find it even hard to believe he's been allowed to get this far. Also, good thing that he's replacing Le Pen, who has already demonstrated she isn't viable and has moved so much to the "center" that I don't even think it would be all that great to have her in power terms of cost-benefit, considering the backlash she would generate and the attrition the right-wing would inevitably take. I hope the Le Pen base completely switches over to Zemmour, as a divided right would be the worst-case scenario.

I have two questions pertaining to Zemmour, if OP or someone french could answer them it'd be appreciated: 1- How is the fact that he is an afro-jew perceived by the Marine Le Pen base, and do you think of it as a problem when considering whether or not to support him? 2- Economically speaking, would he be a classic free-market conservative or more Le Pen-style statist? I would assume that free-market economics could alienate some of the youth and white working class voters, while at the same time winning over some older people and cuckservatives.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I find it even hard to believe he's been allowed to get this far.

He's just too big. They're trying to cancel him but it's not working.

How is the fact that he is an afro-jew perceived by the Marine Le Pen base, and do you think of it as a problem when considering whether or not to support him?

I doubt it's a problem. He may be a Jew but he's a very antithetical Jew.

Economically speaking, would he be a classic free-market conservative or more Le Pen-style statist?

Le Pen-style statist. Reactionaries in France hate the free market.

[–]lokke767 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds great.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Isn't he just in danger of splintering the NR vote? Got to say I'm quite sceptical about this zemmour phenomenon.

Also didn't we learn the lesson from Trump that as energizing and satisfying as these celebrity, outsider candidates are -- btw I'm not comparing the two men as zemmour is obviously a far superior person -- the real problem is if by some miracle they do get into office them actually finding capable people to fulfill their agenda? How many allies does zemmour really have to form a core of capable people?

Whatever you can say of NR at least they are an established party with divisions all over the country and would be able to man the institutions and offices that could make them a lasting and not a fleeting force.

Le Pen all the way for me.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

100% agreed. People should be skeptical of throwing aside decades of work over what’s potentially just a celebrity fad. RN’s not perfect but they’ve been at this for a long time, have a huge support base & have got closer to winning the Presidency basically every election cycle. Should they win in 2022 or 2027 it would change Europe forever.

I’m very suspicious of throwing that away for this Jewish celebrity with no track record.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The NR is in free fall. The recent regional elections demonstrated that.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They lost some votes in one regional election (that they’ve always struggled with compared to the presidential). ‘Free fall’ seems a bit of an exaggeration. They’ve been around for a long time & hopefully will continue to do so. The worst thing that could happen would be this guy coming in & splitting the vote

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The worst thing that could happen would be this guy coming in & splitting the vote

That's not going to happen. He'll easily win on the right.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Bad news is he is a Jew, good news is he is a Middle Eastern Jew. They don't have the same historical animosity toward European people and European nationalism as European Jews do. Middle Eastern Jews animosity is all directed at muslims.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is something I've seen with Israeli nationalists as well, and I'm not talking about neocohens who live in the West, but actual nationalists who live in Israel.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It will be interesting to see what happens if he continues to grow in popularity. I am specifically interested in seeing how the rest of the West will react because if his support continues to grow he will start getting more attention outside of France. How will Jew media handle covering the new fascist boogie man when he is a Jew?

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How will Jew media handle covering the new fascist boogie man when he is a Jew?

They have no problem attacking their own when they refuse to accept the Great Replacement of Europeans.