America: Empire or Nation?

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    [–]TheJamesRocket[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    An American civil war would not happen without some catalysing spark. It would need to be something huge, like gun confiscation, or an economic collapse. Otherwise, white conservatives would not be able to overcome the inertia of their own inaction.

    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    gun confiscation

    This is unlikely. Repiblicans have decided to boil the gun frog slowly. Trump said "take the guns first" and conservatards loved it. They will chip away at gun rights for a few more decades until theyre gone.

    economic collapse.

    This one is more likely. Another great depression might spark a war or it could consolidate power even more as citizens become even more dependent on the government and mega corporations and mega banks.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Neither faction is technically organized. The people that organize the left are manipulative and only use their troops tactically (for fear they will turn). The people that organize the right are controlled opposition. Dissidents are not allowed to publicly organize in any capacity. The best we can do is private groups that organize offline and can gel together in times of crisis.

    Basically I just see a brazilification coming. Our last hope was some type of alliance with the evangelical whites that are waking up to 50 years of lies from the GOP. Unfortunately the alt right has done a piss poor job of reaching out to these people. We've been convinced by agents they are all qtards and we missed a golden opportunity. Now they are all dying from old age or the shot or divorce laws or hormone attacks or financial attacks. I don't see a bright future for dissidents except in parallel economies and offline highly secretive organization. We need to shift into a holding pattern in hopes we can take advantage of the population decline and inevitable economic collapse. A good example of this opportunism is that we should encourage the BLM anti vax protests.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Unfortunately the alt right has done a piss poor job of reaching out to these people.

    The ''reach'' and power of the alt right is greatly overestimated. The mass of people waking up are not due to alt right videos on youtube or bitchute. Its due to the regime's extreme and blatant hostility towards them. As the hatred and discrimination grows more blatant and explicit by the day, more people will wake up.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Our last hope was some type of alliance with the evangelical whites that are waking up to 50 years of lies from the GOP. Unfortunately the alt right has done a piss poor job of reaching out to these people.

    Evangelicals are the biggest supporters of Israel, because they see it as necessary to fulfill some weird bible prophecy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/14/half-of-evangelicals-support-israel-because-they-believe-it-is-important-for-fulfilling-end-times-prophecy/

    Never trust religion. That's actually where the deracination process came from. They rather submit themselves to god and some dead jew from thousands of years ago, and they treat their existence on Earth as being completely temporary because they see themselves going to Heaven.

    This completely contradicts race realism. Humans are biological and evolved for millions of years to pass on our genes to the next LIVING being. I honestly don't care where I end up in the afterlife. Even if I have to choose an eternity in hell, I rather race still exist on Earth, than it turn into a neo-Brazil (which is full of Catholics by the way but the country is still a mess).