Keith Woods: "Are people still going to call Tucker a gatekeeper and a net negative now that he's calling out the great replacement on Fox?"

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What do you mean? All they have to do is say they're against demographic replacement of white people and people vote for them. What is stopping them doing this?

but their political platform doesn't provide them with any tools to act on it.

Of course, but it's never stopped the GOP lying about what it will do in the past.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's different when it comes to demographics. Conservatives have been very carefully avoiding any mention of demographics or demographic policy, because doing so would jeopardise the status of 90s style "race blind" neoliberalism. By opening up discussion of demographic issues, they are transforming the matter into a "legitimate", "mainstream" political concern. This will result in all sorts of interesting leftist reactions, given that the left absolutely cannot stomach that idea, but that's not the important part. The important part is that unlike with the immigration issue, even taking a rhetorical stance on demographics would have great effects in shifting the public discourse and the way people think about society, citizenship, community and the nation-state. I do not think the GOP can actually take a consistent stance on this matter, though - it just clashes too much with liberal Constitutionalism. I think they will just end up giving attention to the demographic issue tactically and will then have to try and withdraw from that conversation. In either case, I think that this will open more room for nationalist politics. Another thing that should be considered is that today, the demographic issue is the main roadblock for a lot of people, which keeps them tied to mainstream politics. If the taboos around the most controversial matter, demographics, are dismantled, then that will probably liberate a lot of people to reexamine all of their political opinions.

To give an example from British history, I think Enoch Powell might be a good example here. Even though he was an establishment conservative, he was basically excommunicated from high society because he brought up the demographics issue. By doing that, he threatened to open up space for legitimate political discussion of demographic policy and the nature of the nation, the nation-state etc. This is why the Conservative Party excluded him - they needed to safeguard the discourse and the liberal, "race blind" status quo.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"The Dems want to demographically replace heritage Americans white and black. We are the party of the multiracial working class"

This is the direction they're going in rhetorically and I don't see why it would have any contradictions with raceblind liberalism, if anything they're accusing the left of betraying this premise and they are the true upholders of it.

Another side note is that there is obviously black anxiety about demographic replacement also concerning hispanics, which is what has been feeding a lot of their chimpouts in recent years. They sense that they're losing some status due to the massive amounts of immigration just the same as white people are. Tariq Nasheed even tweeted pretty much exactly this the other day, it's something I've been noticing and thinking about for a couple years now.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think just mentioning the demographic issue is already a momentous change and in my opinion, it does not really matter what they may or may not intend with this. The results will be quite clear. American blacks vote something like 90% Democrat. Hispanics are similar. This type of rhetoric will almost exclusively affect white Republican voters. There is also the matter of how white Americans will pro-actively make their own interpretations of what this demographic rhetoric means for them. The important thing here is not the exact position the establishment conservatives are taking on this issue, but rather that they are talking about it, bringing it to the attention of their voters and legitimising it at all.