Genealogy of morals

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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Though much maligned in these circles, the French revolution and liberalism of the 19th century had many positive features.

No, it didn't.

Free speech, meritocracy, the scientific mindset, eugenics and individual rights and liberties were all positive aspects.

Free speech has never existed. Meritocracy, the scientific mindset and eugenics were a part of progressivism, which was different from liberalism. And individual rights and liberties will always lead to degeneracy.

It seems to me you just want to go back to an earlier version of liberalism. As if we won't simply end up where we are now again. Blaming all degeneracy on Marxism is stupid. The fact is that today's liberalism is much more degenerate than any Marxist society has ever been. If you really think like this then you're a racist liberal, not a dissident.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

good thing about french revolution was guillotining the rich.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

No, the best thing was that it led to the rise of Napoleon.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Sorry this is kind of off topic but it's been bugging me for a while because there's a technical term for the rise of a Napoleon/Stalin type figure who's a corrective to the excesses of a revolution like Napoleon was and I can't for the life of me remember the word. Your comment just reminded me of it so I thought I'd ask.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Pendulum principle?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the idea but there's actually a more specific name for the coming of that Napoleon type figure after a revolution. Thank you though.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Reactionary

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No it's a more specific term.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Napoleon wasn't really a reactionary.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think he can be called one. He abolished democracy and instated himself as an absolute monarch. He also rolled back many of the most oppressive measures aimed against the aristocracy and the clergy.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Caesarism?