Two-thirds of businesses around the world are struggling to hire

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

It's a swindle. Most jobs today are redundant, but greedy CEO's still believe we need to pack a warehouse full of millions of people, just so they can all make the same products that the factory next door also produces.

Some people are scared of automation, but honestly, it's a blessing in disguise. I would love if we let robots take over the manual labor, and they start paying us back in the form of UBI. More White people with free time and money = more chances to settle down and raise a family.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

More White people with free time and money = more chances to settle down and raise a family.

A world where man no longer has to labour is likely a world that creates even more weak and degenerate men.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Not true.

Imagine if every Scientist or Philosopher was forced to hunt animals all day, instead of sitting down and discussing their ideas?

It's actually inefficient to make everyone into mindless wage slaves, when technology always makes past forms of labor redundant. Instead of slaving away at a factory, people can go make music or art instead. Or even help colonize other planets.

[–]aukofthecovenantWhite man with eyes 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Instead of slaving away at a factory, people can go make music or art instead.

You're mind-blowingly optimistic about what the masses will do when no demands are placed on them. It's easy for smart, driven people who as a result do intellectual or artistic pursuits in their spare time to assume that everyone else is like them. That assumption is false. In reality, many people are neither smart nor driven.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What do you think people do in their spare time? You don't have to be a genius to walk dogs outside. Or play golf. Or even take the time to clean up your house and plant a garden.

And I say this as someone who fully understands the bell curve. But that doesn't mean I want 99% of the population to be raised as slaves who only show up to work and drop dead when they get old. If anything, this is actually turning out to be dysgenic.

Humans have less spare time to settle down and start a family. With fewer kids being born, the Elites use this to justify mass immigration. Since Africa, India and China have billions of people, it's more Low IQ races being used to replace the smarter ones. Thus, the IQ of white nations goes down and in its place is an even more subservient slave class who needs to be replaced with even dumber slaves to keep the cycle going.

I don't justify this behavior. Even if it means White kids choosing to play video games all day, their life has more meaning than just being another cog in a factory.

[–]aukofthecovenantWhite man with eyes 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You don't have to be a genius to walk dogs outside. Or play golf. Or even take the time to clean up your house and plant a garden.

While these all sound pleasant, you'll note that none are particularly useful to broader society. The question that must be answered is how to get average people (a moving target) to contribute something that moves civilization forward, even if any one individual's contribution is infinitesimal. I will be the first to say that many jobs today do not really fit that description, and that the people in them would be happier (temporarily, at least) if their lives were filled by leisure.

Technological progress requires that at least some people must work. Yes, there are people who will do advanced things as leisure, but they depend on a supply chain that eventually ends with manual labor. The scientist needs lab equipment, which needs microchips, which need rare-earth metals, which need to be extracted from the ground. I would want the miners to see their work as having meaning in the context of the scientist's work.

Humans have less spare time to settle down and start a family.

It's a mistake to blame this on a lack of spare time. How much spare time would a "career-oriented" woman need to have before she decides to stop being "career-oriented" and have a family? Unfortunately, the situation is one of chicken-and-egg because women and men in the same labor force puts downward pressure on wages, making it harder for one person to support another plus kids at the accustomed standard of living.

Our movement's goal should be to get white people to reframe their priorities so that "spare time" is not a consideration when it comes to having children. You don't look for time to do it - you make time for it.

White kids choosing to play video games all day, their life has more meaning than just being another cog in a factory.

Does it really? I think you conflate "temporary pleasure" with "meaningfulness". I also think you see "being a cog" and "having a meaningful life" as mutually exclusive which they are not.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While these all sound pleasant, you'll note that none are particularly useful to broader society. The question that must be answered is how to get average people (a moving target) to contribute something that moves civilization forward, even if any one individual's contribution is infinitesimal. I will be the first to say that many jobs today do not really fit that description, and that the people in them would be happier (temporarily, at least) if their lives were filled by leisure. Technological progress requires that at least some people must work. Yes, there are people who will do advanced things as leisure, but they depend on a supply chain that eventually ends with manual labor. The scientist needs lab equipment, which needs microchips, which need rare-earth metals, which need to be extracted from the ground. I would want the miners to see their work as having meaning in the context of the scientist's work.

In an automated society, robots are new the labor class. Digging for minerals, or assembling new computers can all be done more efficiently with machines that never require sleep.

In fact, to bring humans contributions into the equation actually looks utterly pointless. Humans grow old and eventually die. A robot can theoretically live forever, or be repaired. Nobody alive today can compete against something that is literally immortal.

It's a mistake to blame this on a lack of spare time. How much spare time would a "career-oriented" woman need to have before she decides to stop being "career-oriented" and have a family? Unfortunately, the situation is one of chicken-and-egg because women and men in the same labor force puts downward pressure on wages, making it harder for one person to support another plus kids at the accustomed standard of living. Our movement's goal should be to get white people to reframe their priorities so that "spare time" is not a consideration when it comes to having children. You don't look for time to do it - you make time for it.

If you stop working in a Capitalist society, someone else with a bigger motivational drive will surpass you. So spare time cannot exist unless you're willing to sacrifice personal wealth for raising kids.

Does it really? I think you conflate "temporary pleasure" with "meaningfulness". I also think you see "being a cog" and "having a meaningful life" as mutually exclusive which they are not.

Being a cog only exists to enrich the 1%. The same 1% who are more than happy to open the borders and replace their workers with third world immigrants who will never have dreams that go beyond the assembly line floor.

So yeah, even being a gamer and trying to beat the high score is still more meaningful than making generic shoes #171586 that every factory in the world is also producing and there's no shortage of footwear to be found.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

There has always been a non labour class. The masses of humanity are not scientists, philosophers, or artists. Humanity would degenerate if there was no necessary labour to be done and all people had to do was seek out pleasures.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Much of the wage labor today is soul-crushing bullshit.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There has always been a non labour class.

The definition of labour has evolved over the years. For example, was it not 100 years ago that most societies were still agrarian? Or the fact there were less people who knew how to read and write, or hold a post secondary degree?

It still takes effort to write music, or do skateboard tricks, or anything we find leisure in. And the less humanity is shackled to doing redundant activities like stacking boxes in a factory, the more we can concentrate on perfecting our hobbies.

Humanity would degenerate if there was no necessary labour to be done and all people had to do was seek out pleasures.

Is a CEO 100x more productive than the people he employs? Nope, but he still gets paid well without ever having to lift up a shovel or stand behind an assembly line all day moving boxes.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

A CEO still works and it is important work. Civilization needs organization and hierarchy. The labour necessary for society would not get done without organization and leadership.

I am not advocating for preserving the current system. You can create a system with far less work and even job rotations so one doesn't have to do the same work every week.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

A CEO can work anywhere in the world. Even from their bed. They can set their own hours or even determine how much "labor" is considered good enough every day.

I'm telling you this concept would translate over to everyone once robots have eliminated most jobs that don't require a human being to stand behind an assembly line all day.

In fact, the perfect analogy is picture everyone now becomes their own entrepreneur. They're being paid to put their body to use whichever way they feel. This again, covers stuff like making art, dancing, riding bikes, playing sports, entertainment, writing books etc. That's still work, but instead of treating them as hobbies, people now do them for an actual living.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Where you are suggesting is basically communist delusions that ignore human nature and the inequality of man.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When did Communism have automation?

This idea is more comparable to pensions, which everyone is entitled to. But instead of having to wait till you're 65 to cash out, you could be given a stipend as early as 18.

Edit: If you believe I'm saying everyone will be equal, no, I made no mention of such. There can even be rich people, smart people, and even dumb people in this world.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What did Trotsky say? Something like after the revolution there would be a 'Goethe on every street corner?' Amazing these utter delusions still hold weight in the human mind.