Something I don't get regarding Nationalists and the vaccine

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Stop wetting your panties over it. If you're below 60 and don't have serious co-morbidity like obesity, heart problems or blood pressure or cholesterol issues, its less dangerous to you than reckless cyclists.

Covid is a disease that some say came from a Pangolin. Other than the fact that these animal to human transmissions have always been a threat to us (i.e would you eat beef that was contaminated with mad cow? If not, would you support a factory that still sells tainted meat?), there's still the issue that the disease has long term effects that lower quality of life. Such as degrading mental health in 1/3rd of survivors.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/a-third-of-covid-19-survivors-suffer-neurological-or-mental-disorders-study-finds-1.5376970

I have every right to be pissed at this the same way I don't want illegal immigrants in my country. I didn't ask for the virus. I didn't ask to be INFECTED with the virus. I don't really care if you got it and claimed to have recovered. There's still the question of why are we letting a foreign disease circulate in the first place and ruin the lives of people who didn't want to become apart of it?

I would absolute push a button tomorrow that said Covid could be eradicated. It was a mistake to bring it inside our countries to begin with, and it's even worse that we do nothing to stop its spread.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are countless contagious diseases that threaten human life. We don't get lockdowns or experimental vaccine mandates for any of them. And covid spreading to the world was unavoidable. Even North Korea has it despite being sealed off from the rest of the world. In an age of easy international travel, it's inevitable for the disease to spread.

COVID spreads for the same reason Ebola didn't. Ebola was too virulent and killed too many of its hosts. Thus it couldn't spread. People could easily identify the infected and isolate them. The same is not true for covid. Covid is largely benign and it kills very few people and for more than 90% of people it's asymptomatic. So you can never contain it completely.

All diseases have a natural evolutionary path towards becoming more benign to their hosts. Because benign viruses survive and reproduce more as they don't kill their hosts and die with it. COVID would go the same way if we simply ignored it and didn't do lockdowns and vaccines.

Leaky vaccines on the other hand prevent this evolution to harmlessness. They prevent deadly strains from killing their hosts and go extinc, thus in the long run proving to be a threat to the unvaccinated. And it makes the population permanently dependent on vaccines. It would be like insulin for diabetics. Without it you'd die. Thus the human race would permanently become enslaved to the medical companies.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are countless contagious diseases that threaten human life. We don't get lockdowns or experimental vaccine mandates for any of them. And covid spreading to the world was unavoidable.

That says more about our failure to secure our borders, rather than accepting these diseases as normal.

Like look at 9/11? Hijackers crashing their aircraft was an unexpected phenomenon, yet if we let every passenger walk up to the cockpit, they would most likely do it again. Rather than take the chances, just ban people from getting close to the steering wheel until the plane reaches its destination. You're not losing your "freedoms", it's an extra level of security meant to prevent future disasters.

Covid now represents that exact same paradigm shift. It's not a good thing to let anyone who came in contact with a foreign disease, walk past airport security. Let them quaratine for two weeks and prove they're not sick, before being allowed back into civilization.

Millions of lives would be saved, and there would be no lockdowns. We could have even achieved this at the start of 2020, but once again, we had too many morons in both government, and public society, who said wearing a mask is pointless, and you shouldn't cry if your parents were later found dead.

That's the recipe for a low trust, dysfunctional society. Asian countries proved this lolbertarian nonsense wrong on day one and they are still doing much better than us.