Something I don't get regarding Nationalists and the vaccine

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You live in Canada, you don't have to deal with the shystery, and frankly unsafe practices involved in the US medical industry.

Oh no, that's not true at all. For the last 12 months, I was directly at the epicenter of the Covid chaos. So much so, there have been multiple lawsuits launched against these medical facilities because the Directors/CEO's in charge, tried to downplay the virus which got several medical staff killed.

You're actually making my argument for me. Working in the medical field has been impossible, because since day one, we had to deal with nutsos in both the government, and the public at large, who believed trying to protect medical workers was a waste of time.

Once again, the only solution to a biological pandemic is a strong Nationalist government. A good friend of mine who also happens to be a Nurse that was doing constant 24 hour shifts also agreed with me. A high trust, homogenous society would value its population and do everything it can to minimize the damage. In Canada, the multicultural landscape actually showed how AWFUL combatting a virus is, because we got morons from different cultures who think throwing large parties and infecting hundreds of people is their god given right, even if it ends up killing people in the process. These same people too were also hopping on planes and traveling back and forth from the most infected countries (i.e India) and bringing back with them more viruses and their mutations. Whenever I voiced my opinion that this type of behavior is destructive, the answer I got was "you're just being racist".

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I'm gonna restructure my statement here, because the first one dismissed pretty important details and I admit to jumping the gun on answering. The medical industry attracts a lot of people that want the decent pay (and status in the upper ends)-- a lot of doctors that don't give a shit about patients, a lot of nurses that just wanted good pay for minimal education. This fucks people with passion for those roles over, because when it comes down to bigger events-- the ones that don't give a shit won't stick around. So you're going to naturally have people unwilling to go back to the field while covid is still going on. The ones that stay get reamed by the system, fucked for all their worth, and left with compromised immune systems from stress/being overworked/lack of rest. They still know what they're getting into, and many continue because infectious diseases aren't a deterrent, they're part of the job. Infection while you're run down (whether by staffing problems from shystery business practices or people not wanting to do those jobs anymore) will get you fucked up though. So yes, while they're being overworked-- not a great idea to be in vulnerable positions, under normal and not strained circumstances the dedicated ones would be handling this shit like a very busy peak. Is this making sense?

Outside of that, we've fucked up society and left it vulnerable to disease already. Allowing abysmal healthcare, letting government institutions like the FDA be corrupted with lobbying, allowing food ingredients and medications to be freely thrown at patients without proper analysis of the results, not incentivizing exercise programs for your people, etc., etc.. All of these things lead to unhealthy populations that are vulnerable from the get-go. I'm not going to argue with you on the dangers that can come with forced multiculturalism from developing countries. I nearly shat a condominium when my too young to be fully vaccinated with an MMR son was laying there with 104°F fevers. Fevers that weren't going down when we had a measles outbreak years back during the last big refugee crisis. I know very well that those "refugees" came from many different countries, and we got an extraordinarily small number of actual Syrians. Most of those countries weren't required to have vaccinations either and are medically risky to be allowed in public places where babies and very young children might be exposed to potential illnesses they could bring. My concern isn't race, it's disease control, and if they were white and unvaccinated or just trying to leech benefits I would tell them to turn right the hell back around too. They're not expected to carry the same standards of first-world nations for whatever reason, and that screws actual citizens over. Alas, we're expected to set ourselves on fire to keep others warm.