Killstream Post-Mortem w. The Boys

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Without constant supplies from the earth, no other colony can even survive. You can't settle a world with life because its microbes would be deadly to you. You'd need to terraform a planet and there are no suitable candidates nearby. A colony on mars would never be self-sufficient and would die out soon without supplies from the earth.

If an asteroid hits and kills us all, then that is it. Nothing we can do about it. At most, we could build a space station above the earth that's somewhat self-sufficient. All life would certainly not go extinct. Earth has been hit by giant asteroids, blanketed under ice, and bathed in volcanic waste in the past.

Life has always returned. It's just that the old life forms died out. New ones took their place. That is the law of nature. Dinosaurs ruled the earth for tens of millions of years. Only bones remain of them now. Their last descendants are the birds and the Rhino. The same will happen to man and all the other species on earth one day.

To accept this truth is to be truly traditionalist. To argue otherwise and think that you can rise above natural laws is the essence of modernity and Judaism.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Without constant supplies from the earth, no other colony can even survive. You can't settle a world with life because its microbes would be deadly to you. You'd need to terraform a planet and there are no suitable candidates nearby. A colony on mars would never be self-sufficient and would die out soon without supplies from the earth.

Technology is specifically invented to reduce these problems or make them negligible over time.

Go back 10,000 years ago and ask European Cavemen if they've heard of America or can they build boats to cross it? They would have shrugged at the idea even though today, we have airplanes that make crossing continents look like a walk in the park.

If Humans settle another planet, our expectations would naturally evolve with them. And it would certainly turn into a competition if the idea of planetary real estate blows up. You don't think Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk salivate at the idea of becoming mini-monarchs on foreign planets that are outside of Earth's government? That's literally the story of how Brazil was founded after Portugal was invaded by France in the 1800s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_of_the_Portuguese_court_to_Brazil

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I think it's no good to compare sailing to the new world to traveling thru space, the distances are way different. Going to mars would be like if the ocean was 1 inch long.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It's all relative.

Cavemen had no understanding of Space, so telling them there's a big unexplored continent on the other side of the world would have sounded just as alien or crazy. And it still took them thousands of years to finally build ships and navigate the oceans before successfully touching down in America or the coasts of South Africa.

Based on today's science, going to Mars is obviously a bigger challenge. But in 500+ years, I expect the gap to shrink and it would be no more harder than riding the Bus to a different part of town.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

it's simplistic and naive tho to expect one thing is possible because another thing was.The other guy was mentioning how space travel would realistically need to be done with AI who then clone humans once it gets to whatever planet after thousands of years. Yeah that is realistic, and yeah it's in 500+ years. We'll all be dead tho.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

We'll all be dead tho.

Speak for yourself. I'm of golden age blood, my people live for a thousand years.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Based and Hesiodpilled.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We have not inherited Thule from our ancestors,

We have borrowed it from our children.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I would bypass the cloning part, and just upload the human consciousness into a robot body.

Yeah, it sounds sci-fi as fuck, but this is what you need to understand when I say our expectations always evolve.

The Human body was made for Earth, so why wouldn't Humans design new bodies that can take us anywhere else in the universe? It's evolution, but done artificially.

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good point

all just science fiction tho. And since it is hundreds of years in the future, it's hard to get us humans of the present to spend trillion on it. Which means it will take even longer for our future descendents. Maybe if climate change is real it will force people to speed it up and work on it for the future humans but I doubt it. And this is the great filter. We'll be extinct, that's more likely than traveling to other planets. I think AI being the only thing to survive is more likely.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

>transhumanism