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[–]Richard_Parker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

It baffles me how retarded people have become. Why do you need a vaccine mandate? If the vaccine is effective and protects you from corona why do you care if the guy next door is unvaccinated?

I will take a shot. First, the Covid have lost the very notion of acceptable or economically feasible risk. What do I mean by this? As a society, we accept so many tens of thousands of automobile deaths and injuries because, while it would feasible from a design and engineering standpoint to reduce these numbers drastically or entirely, it is not economically feasible to do so. A car could be built like a tank, but they would get terrible mileage, could not drive over 35 mph, and half the population could not afford them.

Beyond that though, the vaccine is not 100 percent effective. I think Pfizer is 90 percent effective. So if you are in the majority of the population where the risk is 99.8 to 99.7 (a survival rate which does not factor out high risk comorbidities like obesity, type two diabetes), your overall risk (which is then calculated by multiplying it by the point percentage of the actual chance you have of contracting it) is “only” reduced by another 90 percent. Throw in the chance of a healthy person then giving it to a high risk group, and voila, there you have the covid hysteria fuel to keep this shit going.

Another thing I have heard bandied about seems to stem from this naïve hope that we can put the genie back in the bottle. Covid zealots think we can eradicate this thing. They think this is like the Polio. Under their theory, the key is to get herd immunity very quickly so the virus cannot further mutate. The idea is that if you have a third of the country not vaccinated, that is enough room for the virus to mutate.

I am no epidemiologist. I doubt anyone here is. This rationale could be true but I doubt it. Since it is likely partially synthetic and lab grown, and seems to have an artificially high right of transmission, my guess is that you will never eradiate it. In all likelihood, it will continue to eradicate. I have heard and read commentary indicating that viruses adapt or mutate in part to be more benign. It is maladaptive for a viral disease to kill its host, so there is evolutionary pressure for it to “live amongst us.”

I am a lot more interested in what this guy has to say about a marxist military takeover, how he had the stones to throw away a pension like that. I wonder if there is a General Francisco Franco among the ranks…

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am a lot more interested in what this guy has to say about a marxist military takeover,

He is just a dumb boomer, everything they don't like about modern liberal capitalist society is Marxism.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they say they just don't want hospitals overrun so they want everyone vaccinated

but as anyone who has ever been to an ER knows, hospitals were always full before covid came around.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

vaccine isn't 100% effective

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

vaccine isn't 100% effective

You're assuming we know the actual design intent of the mRNA injections.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

my conspiracy theory is the virus kills mainly old people, and the rich who run the world are mostly old people, so they're scared shitless. They could just self quarantine for life because they are most at risk but don't want to so they want the entire world to be vaccinated, even though the vaccine has tons of side effects, so that they can be free to go out and about on vacations. They released the bioweapon aiming to reduce the world's population but it doesn't kill very many young healthy people, just old people, so it is a massive fuckup by the eliites that they're scrambling to fix. The vaccine had been worked on decades ago as a vaccine for SARS but it wasn't used because 1. it has tons of side effects and 2. SARS wasn't that big a deal.

So the vaccine doesn't work that well at stopping covid, it helps young healthy people have less symtoms but that was already the case if they caught covid. But the old folks that are rich and run things, are not going to get the vaccine, they just want their servants to not pass covid to them. I'm sure they are working on better vaccines that work, and will require we get boosters of it every 6 months or so.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What a silly theory, pops.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

my conspiracy theory is the virus kills mainly old people, and the rich who run the world are mostly old people, so they're scared shitless.

Your "conspiracy theory" sounds like the mainstream narrative.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

based on one sentence? and the MSM says rich old people run the world?

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No but most are not 100 percent effective either. 90 percent of 88 percent whatever Pfizer is) is lower than flu shots from what I understand. All of this is of course developing. They could prove to have much lower efficacy over time....

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I never got flu shots cuz flu didn't seem like that big a deal. I just checked, https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm it says the flu shots are 40-60% at reducing flu symptoms, so I guess flu shots aren't effective at all at stopping you from getting it, just helps reduce the symtoms by about half. Great, but not even as good as the covid shot supposedly is. Now this is what cdc admits, likely it's worse.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

the vaccine is not 100 percent effective. I think Pfizer is 90 percent effective. So if you are in the majority of the population where the risk is 99.8 to 99.7 (a survival rate which does not factor out high risk comorbidities like obesity, type two diabetes), your overall risk (which is then calculated by multiplying it by the point percentage of the actual chance you have of contracting it) is “only” reduced by another 90 percent.

This sounds a lot like a Big Pharma shill.

I've had covid. I am obese and have type 2 diabetes and 5 types of cancer, all caused by heavy metal poisoning. According to your bullshit I should run to the vaccine. Ha.

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What are you talking about. I am setting forth how the risk is incredibly low.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The "vaccine" is very effective at creating new variants and making people sick. You talk about 90% effective, which is Big Pharma propaganda. I agree on your assessment of the "risk" of "covid" (aka chinese cold), but attributing any effectiveness to the "vaccine" without quotes is spreading Big Pharma talking points.

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He asked what the rationale was. I told him. I doubt anyone really knows what is going or what they are doing.