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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

My goal is a white ethnostate. If banning it gets me there so be it and vice versa.

Marijuana was more dangerous to whites because it was used in conjunction with non whites. It helped non whites build parallel economies and resist joining the workforce. Jews used it to romanticize negros and promote them to white women. The health issues, feminization and lack of motivation issues are less important in my mind then the wedge issue weed became. Many whites vowed to never vote republican because of how 'mean' and implicitly racist marijuana laws were framed to be. So I think the dissident right should look at weed with a pragmatic real politik approach. Which approach gets us to our goals?

[–]la_cues 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How do you quantify how harmful cannabis is to your goal? What about the effects of alcohol, fast food, or divorce?

Could "whites" not use cannabis to build parallel economies to further their ends, if the roles were reversed in history?

I had high hopes for this thread but it turned out pretty shit. (Not your response, specifically, Nasty.)

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do you quantify how harmful cannabis is to your goal? What about the effects of alcohol, fast food, or divorce?

  1. Divorce
  2. Fast Food
  3. Cannabis
  4. Alcohol

Could "whites" not use cannabis to build parallel economies to further their ends, if the roles were reversed in history?

In a way they have. Many whites were involved in illegal growing operations for years. I don't really see how the roles could be reversed though. Blacks took up the drug trade out of degeneracy and lifestyle chasing. Not because they were being persecuted for expressing themselves politically. (I think blacks were also 'helped' into smoking it by Jews that wanted a cool 'jazz' negro figure to build up to seduce white women). The other problem with cannabis as a parallel economy is that most people that get involved with it also partake in it and if effects xenoestrogens and motivation. It's not really a drug that fits with the goal of white nationals. Most drugs don't. White nationalism is about a return to healthy, traditional living, moral living and fitness especially. Habitual cannabis usage doesn't fit in with that. IB4 Joe Rogan. That guy's on TEST and HGH and manages his weed habit carefully. The bulk of people that smoke weed don't manage it like Rogan does. A small percentage of the white populace smoking weed for art purposes and occasional relaxing doesn't really both me. Habitual smoking and promoting it as some type of health product is more worrisome.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 3 insightful - 8 fun3 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

In the absence of a White ethnostate, which should not litigate citizens' food and medicine, I'll cheer on whatever is most subversive. It's not like my vote matters.

Cannabis consumption should be mandatory. Maybe fewer murders would occur.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

it's kind of like ivermectin. good for you, no side effects, cheap to produce, hard for corporations to profit from, so they make it illegal.

I get it, black people like to smoke it, so let's make it illegal to make it hard on them. That's like a side issue though. Black people are here cuz of their ancestors being brought as slaves, a huge mistake, weed was around before and after that and had nothing to do with that issue. I do think hard drugs should be illegal, it's a seprate issue, what does weed have to do with heroin, different way of taking it, different effects, different levels of addiction, different health effects, let's look at things on a case by case basis. Should we make ivermectin illegal because of the vaccine having side effects, no that makes no sense right, two different things?

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Marijuana is not good for you.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

think for yourself, ignore media

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I can stop any time I choose, I just choose not to." sums up perfectly the problem with it. It destroys willpower.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Truly, it is not.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It should be banned and people who smoke it should be sentenced to 2 years of hard labor. While people who sell it should be sentenced to 7 years of hard labor with condition of parole contingent on them binging Netflix Teen dramas.

[–]Richard_Parker 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Marijuana is by no means a benign drug. It makes you stupid and overly complacent. There are stereotypes for a reason.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

The same people who lay around and smoke weed all day would lay around and drink or pop pills or whatever else if weed wasn't around. Weed doesn't make people lazy-those people were already lazy.

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I do not think so. It makes it worse. Just look at any chic it junk food forging potsmoker chick....

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It makes it worse.

They were already lazy.

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And pot makes it much worse.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not necessarily. It can definitely exacerbate or compound that instinct in my personal experience.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

False. It MAKES you lazy. Maybe you are able to construe "laziness" in a way that it doesn't apply to this or that pot smoker, but it just does.

There's people who have been smoking since teenage and work long hours at their job and seem to not be lazy but they still are. For example, in sticking to shit jobs instead of changing their life for the better. Laziness can be subtle.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are stereotypes for a reason.

That reason is called Indica.

[–]sylla94 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

at a minimum it shouldn't be consumed before the brain is fully developed

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Modern marijuana has been ruined by the high THC rates which people falsely assume make the drug better. They think the only difference is it gets you more high but the drug effects are different. When you raise the THC rates you alter all the other cannabinoids in the plant. It is impossible to find Marijuana that close to its natural THC rates anymore. Marijuana is naturally around 2% THC, up until the 90's it was around 4%, now it over 20%.

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I would be inclined to agree with "Weed is fucking degenerate, it literally turns you into a nigger"

Weed, like all other drugs, is a tool of Jews and leftists to turn Whites (and other races, for that matter) into to sickly, effeminate, zonked lapdogs. It fucks your brain permanently, especially if used in one's adolescent years. It's linked to cancer and other such shit as well.

There is literally no reason to legalize it, outside of niche medical purposes that would hopefully be solved through a non-corrupt healthcare and medical science system anyway, making even that entirely moot.

The best way to tackle drugs is to shut down all borders completely, wage ACTUAL war on gangs and drug rings (napalm shitholes like Afghanistan, Colombia, etc. that produce the poison) and don't bother arresting gang members except to extract information from them.

People like to blame addiction on genetics but it simply isn't true. If that were the case, the Jews wouldn't constantly push drugs and expand their reach (why push something that would only affect a small percentage of the population? That's like trying to "glass the juice" by feeding all Jews peanuts and hoping that all of them are allergic). The truth is, very few people are blessed to be both smart, good looking, etc. (truly genetic factors) and also escape the constant bombardment of degeneracy, especially since most people except those few of exception moral character and genetic luck are naturally degenerate.

Freud was a weirdo and a retard, but to use his popular theory of the "id, ego, and superego", most people in society, even in an ethnically pure and genetically solid nation, will lean towards their "id" if allowed to, which is why degeneracy must be prohibited either through law, or far better, through prevention and making it almost impossible to perform or create degeneracy (this is best, as it prevents the crime from ever happening).

As an example, in high school, I knew multiple people who seemingly had nothing wrong with them genetically or anything that were massive degens and/or drug addicts because of Jewish control of culture, media, etc. As a more specific example, I can think of a couple chicks from then who could easily be described as the stereotypical 'Aryan': good looking, blonde hair, blue eyes, intelligent, outgoing, and plenty more, but they hung around nogs/spics, smoked weed or did other drugs, got tramp stamps, and generally set themselves up for disaster.

In summation, like most problems, get rid of the Jew and the darkie, and the problem will collapse on its own, and simply needs a bit of cleanup.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

napalm shitholes like Afghanistan, Colombia, etc. that produce the poison

Neocon detected

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Neocons are faggots. Protecting our own people (and the entire world) is what they refuse to do. A Neocon would start throwing around buzzwords and start simping for chimps like Floyd if you said "shoot gangsters and indiscriminately bomb shitholes" like I just did, lol.

I'm sorry if you're scared of an effective strategy to end the worldwide drug trade (along with 'glassing the juice' so to speak), but napalming them is the most hands-off and effective strategy.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada! 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Coke and meth should be legal. Maybe even crack. These drugs are harmless in themselves. They only become dangerous because dealers cut them with fentanyl and other impurities, which is a result of their illegality. Stimulants are pretty based which is why there is no movement to legalize or destigmatize them. They have the opposite effect from what the Jews want to see on the goyim.

All opiates should be banned however including as a prescription. They are truly the curse of the white race.

[–]Brewdabier 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well alcohol is legal almost around the world and so is the DUI problems, here in California weed is legal to buy in weed shops. Problem is people go to weed shops and buy weed then either sit in the parking lot and smoke then drive or smoke while driving. So I say make weed legal but if cought driving DUI the courts should put you in jail for minimum 10 years first offense and double the second offense and not the slap on the hand like they do now. Also I've smoked weed for 48 years so not a paleocon/traditionalist.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll speak from personal experience: I think weed is anti-fascism in concentrated chemical form. I despise it mostly because of personal experience with heavy users -- tried it a couple of times and it was hell on Earth for me. It makes people stupid, ironic, lazy and uninspired. I've never known a committed weed user I respected and I watched it transform the entire personalities of friends I went to school with.

I'd put it on the level of porn. Not allowed in my ethnostate and it's not a benign thing.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My view is that all drugs should be made fully legal.

But it is also my view that actual SCIENCE about the use and effects of said drugs be studied and the results disseminated and taught broadly, without any politicizing of the issue.

And it is my view that the world is in such a sorry state that none of this has any basis in actual, you know, REALITY.

Because in reality our societies are fragmented, people are lonely and desperate, and giving them drugs is a recipe for disaster. But on the other hand, making drugs illegal is just promoting Big Pharma's profits.

In the end, drugs are a society issue. And if we could only fix our societies, THEN we could have actual science to get factual knowledge about the use and effects of these substances, and THEN they could all be made legal. Because healthy societies based on sound morality and coherent ethnic values don't produce despair, and without despair, addicts would be a very rare thing indeed.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

If it didn't stink it wouldn't be illegal.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So you base your morality on the law (written by Jews and shabbos goys), instead of your own sense of right and wrong, and on what's best for our people? What if being a white nationalist became illegal tomorrow? I'm assuming you're also pro-white.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I just said if it didn't stink it wouldn't be illegal. Where did you derive all that bunch of blab-a-lot you just vomited onto my screen.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So you're a ZOGbot? Got it.