The jews aren't White theory doesn't really have a strong basis to be honest

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Our people don't have origins in India you utter retard. The White people whose culture appears to have emerged in the Steppes of what's now Ukraine who spoke proto Indo-European and conquered all the way from Northern India, parts of China, Persia and all the way West to Ireland were Whites and they form a major part of especially NW European ancestry. You're honestly too fucking stupid to even debate. You just babble and say weird random shit I'd expect from a 12 year old.

Jews are Jews. I don't give a fuck if they're 'brown', 'blue', 'green' or 'white' they are their own group with their own identity, religion and interests. That's all that matters. Mostly only morons debate this utterly meaningless question whether they're White or not.

Jews are Jews. I'd be as opposed to the Amish -- who are 100 percent of European origin -- if they acted the way Jews do. It is an irrelevant piece of tedium for philo-semites like you to obsess over.

Also spare me this fake sudden conversion to any hostility to Jews. You're such a slimy fucking liar.

[–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

"Indo-European" does seem to indicate some origin from india.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Indo-European is a language descriptor because of the common origins of Sanskrit and European languages. The common root for both languages is the same White horse lords who conquered India and Western Europe.

Fucking retard.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

The common root for both languages is the same White horse lords who conquered India and Western Europe.

Proto Endo European is far older than is acknowledged by mainstream archeology.

It comes from the same general region as Gobekli Tepe, which is dated to approximately 10,000 years ago (2000 years after the end of the ice age).

This moves the history of ancient megalithic civilizations back in time by at least 4000 years.

The common root for both languages is the same White horse lords who conquered India and Western Europe.

Proto Indo European is a legacy of an advanced pre-ice age civilization.

The fortunate few who survived the cataclysm and subsequent global sea rise, which dramatically ended the ice age (12,800 years ago).

These survivors also retained the technical knowledge to build Gobekli Tepe.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

While I have a lot of time for alternative-history theories, I don’t think they’re quite as certain as your post makes them out to be (and perhaps we’ll never know the truth). Of course mainstream historians are prone to do this in the complete opposite direction, where they’ll present their narratives as 100% fact based on one or two archaeological digs or fragments of surviving historical texts.

With that said, the balance of evidence as of now seems to point towards Indo-European peoples originating in the Black/Caspian Sea area ~4th Millenium BC. And I don’t think they conquered because of super-advanced technology, but simply the horse, chariot and the innate drive to expand that is present in many European races.

s/Salos60000 doesn’t seem to realise that the European steppe nomads conquered the Indians. Not vice-versa.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

the balance of evidence as of now seems to point towards Indo-European peoples originating in the Black/Caspian Sea area ~4th Millenium BC.

Your misgivings about the actual age of anything that's older than 4000 bce is understandable, given the balance of the bought and paid for academia agree with you.

Fortunately, evidence that Gobekli Tepe is 10,000 years old, or older (8000-9500 BCE) is overwhelming.

So much so, that even the shills at Wikipedia agree.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

Göbekli Tepe is a Neolithic archaeological site near the city of Şanlıurfa in Southeastern Anatolia, Turkey. Dated to the Pre-Pottery Neolithic, between c. 9500 and 8000 BCE, the site comprises a number of large circular structures supported by massive stone pillars – the world's oldest known megaliths.
Many of these pillars are richly decorated with abstract anthropomorphic details, clothing, and reliefs of wild animals, providing archaeologists a rare insights into prehistoric religion and the particular iconography of the period.
The 15 m (50 ft)-high, 8 ha (20 acres) tell also includes many smaller rectangular buildings, quarries, and stone-cut cisterns from the Neolithic, as well as some traces of activity from later periods.

If you are interested in getting further out of your historical comfort zone, then look into the "sphinx erosion hypothesis"

The erosion on the sphinx body and surrounding enclosure (the sphinx body is carved down, and out of the solid bedrock) is undoubtedly caused by water erosion.

No other mechanism causes this type of wear. It's unmistakable.

The head doesn't match the body, because it's obviously recarved out of the the original monument (material removed).

The severity of the erosion (1.0-1.5m deep or 3-4.5 ft.) suggests that it's probably ten's of thousands of years old.
Imagine the millennia of rainfall that would be required to carve 3 feet into the bedrock.

It easily predates the ice age.

The pyramids are similarly ancient.
They are technical masterpieces that the modern world still couldn't reproduce.

Precision-interlocking stone blocks weighing as much as 80 tons cannot be moved by modern cranes.

The facts, as they are.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks for the sources. I know about Gobekli Tepe, but is it linked to the Indo-Aryans? I’ve not heard that before, a culture surviving the best part of 10,000 years seems improbable.

The reason I take alt history & a lot of other more ‘conspiratorial’ ideas popular here with a grain of salt is that I just don’t see a motive for our enemies to cover it up. As a counter example, white genocide or the Holocaust narratives have a clear goal - to justify removing power from white Europeans & placing in the hands of Jews/‘minorities’. It took them untold sums of resources, money, 100 years & two world wars to implant this bull shit into our heads.

When they do cover up history, it’s usually with a specific goals and it’s pretty easy to spot (I.e anything to do with American slavery, ‘diversity’ in medieval Europe etc).

Why would the Jews put so much effort into totally covering up the history of a civilisation in Ukraine, 10,000 years ago? It has no relevance to modern politics

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why would the Jews put so much effort into totally covering up the history of a civilisation in Ukraine, 10,000 years ago? It has no relevance to modern politics

They oppose everything that they think has a logical endpoint in opposing jewish power.

The oldest swastika is from Ukraine, 12,000 years ago. The people of the swastika that spread the symbol around the world was, as we know, the Aryans. Jews have tried a lot to suppress the Aryan/Indo-European conquests but archaeological evidence has proven the racial theorists of the 19th and 20th centuries correct. If the symbol of this people has been found from 12,000 years ago then there's the possibility of continuity and pre-Yamnaya Aryans being a thing in other civilisations, even if it's extremely unlikely and could never be proven it's something jews are scared of.

People who are into comparative mythology, alt-archaeology surrounding Egypt and ancient civilisations all end up thinking along the same lines as the Volkisch, NS etc guys did eventually. If literally everyone who ever looks into ancient civilisations comes to the same kind of ideas as the racial theorists of the 19/20th centuries did then obviously jews are aware of this and would see it as a threat, as it already did become a threat to them when it culminated in National Socialism the first time. It makes perfect sense why they would be scared of it, even if it's not true.

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it's like how they covered up the epic of gilgamesh for many years, because it describes a flood myth and they didn't want people to realize they copied that for the old testament. Hurts their religion. If world was created 6 thousand years ago, they don't want to talk about evidence of civilization existing 10,000 years ago.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the word india came to represent anything to the east like how they also though native americans in the new world were indians.