An honest question to the pro-vax people on this sub, why do you trust the state on the vaccine issue?

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

a power-play because there's virtually no covid there.

That's how you do lockdowns actually, when you have one or two cases, not when you have thousands.

Masking is retarded because the covid molecule is so small it passes right through the mask fabric.

You have to be retarded to think masks don't work lol, water molecules can pass through cloth too, but when someone sprinkles water on your shirt you won't get wet.

Very good sheep. OBEY. Acquiesce is the enemy.

Ok schizo. Acquiesce with speed limit regulations is also enemy, I assume.

How about the proven science that covid has a 99.98% survival-rate?

This data is fake, it doesn't refer to survival rate at all, this was mathematical model crafted in September 2020, this was just possible scenario. You're indulged into DeSantis' bullshit too much. We see how well Florida is doing rn.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

That's how you do lockdowns actually, when you have one or two cases, not when you have thousands.

Then explain Sweden retard.

You have to be retarded to think masks don't work lol

Okay retard

Ok schizo. Acquiesce with speed limit regulations is also enemy, I assume.

No surprise a fucking retard would use a false analogy.

This data is fake

Sure retard

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I just re-read my comment and I'm sorry for too much personal insults. I'm still not convinced by any of your arguments, I literally explained why the survival rate isn't 99.98%. It's more like 98.2%.

I don't disagree with Sweden's approach, it's perfectly valid strategy, but when you compare it to Australia and China it's objectively inferior. Most of our governments are doing the worst possible combo, which is something in between of Sweden and Australia/China.

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

it's objectively inferior.

Sweden's approach (without respect to any external threats like "vaccines") is objectively superior.

Being able to enjoy life and gain natural immunity is objectively superior.

If you claim objectivity, so will I.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Objectively refers strictly to data.

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The point is that data being used for idiotic conclusions isn't logically useful.

It's useful to nation-wreckers.

A robot can produce data that shows the benefits of eliminating/enslaving humans and that not doing so would produce inferior results.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I am discussing effectiveness of Austrialian/Chinese vs Swedish lockdown and what is better. Yes, it's better to have less disease and it's better to have strict authoritarian short-term measures to ensure that.

[–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes, it's better to have less disease and it's better to have strict authoritarian short-term measures to ensure that.

I'd prefer strict authoritarianism that eliminates everyone who [subverts people's nations and lives over idiot-tier globalist propaganda such as "covid" and "climate" hysteria and the like and everyone who pushes these "vaccines" on to others especially on to children] from all positions of influence at minimum.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah damn these vaccine subverters! This is what they're doing for thousands of years!

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