An honest question to the pro-vax people on this sub, why do you trust the state on the vaccine issue?

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I'd just like to hear their rationalization for getting the vaccine or supporting the vaccine mandate.

I don't do either of these things but I do criticise the anti-vax stuff. The reason why is because none of the arguments make sense, it's all bog standard crazy schizo shit just substituting in 'Covid' and 'vax' around the usual format of the 'NWO genociding everyone apart from 500 million' theory.

If you guys just say you don't want to get it because you don't think it's had sufficient testing (true), you're young and healthy (I hope it's true), you're scared of needles (is prolly true for a lot of people) etc I wouldn't say a thing. I just have an issue against lunatic tier conspiracies about how the elites are trying to genocide everyone who supports them, starting with the jews, for reasons that have absolutely no coherence. Also nobody's theories align and everybody's theories constantly change, so they don't even align with themselves and are constantly proven wrong then they just make up a new theory.

Remember at first it was the bioweapon to wipe out humanity, then all of a sudden it didn't exist and was actually a conspiracy of every single government, along with everyone who works in medicine and hospitals etc in the entire world. Then all of a sudden the vaccine became the bioweapon. Then when the vaccine's death rate wasn't sufficient for that narrative I was told this is just a trial run to make people obedient to take vaccines to prepare people for the real bioweapon that's coming in the future. The other theory is that this is a slow-drip poison that is going to kill people over the long run, convenient unfalsifiable narrative.

Can you guys not see how obviously stupid this all is? Just don't take the vax if you don't want it. Conspiratard shit is gay.

[–]Ponderer 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

it's all bog standard crazy schizo shit just substituting in 'Covid' and 'vax' around the usual format of the 'NWO genociding everyone apart from 500 million' theory.

This is what bothers me, and it feels cut out of the same psyop cloth as "5G causes coronavirus".

I don't trust the vaccine, but I don't believe it will cause millions to drop dead. And in a year from now when they don't, the libtards are going to all point and laugh at the conspiracy theorists who predicted they would. The conspiracy theorists themselves will feel confused and ashamed and maybe even abandon their more reasonable beliefs. It's a huge psyop on both sides.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

They'll have new ones then. The schizo-metanarrative has changed like 4 times already.

Covid is a bioweapon, the government is trying to kill us which is why there's no lockdown or borders closing

They do borders and lockdowns Oh yeah the masks don't even work anyway

Oh yeah bro covid isn't even real

Oh yeah bro covid isn't real and they're making a vaccine bioweapon actually, covid was just the pre-bioweapon prank that they set up for fun or something

Who knows what stupid shit is coming up next. During phase 2 of this when lockdowns and masking stuff first started I was in Asha Logos' Riot/Element chat which was filled with racist libertarians.

I had a conversation with one of them who was bragging about how he didn't wear a mask to his local shop and an old lady was scared. Can you even imagine being this much of a subhuman? He felt pleasure that old people were scared they were going to die because he wanted to flex his 'muh freedumb'.

I said from the start even if you don't think the mask does anything it doesn't fucking matter. You don't wear it because of 'obedience', or because you think it works, you do it so the people in your community, of your race, who are scared of this shit feel safe. Even if they're wrong and stupid to be scared because you think it's fake, that doesn't matter to the social reality. The social reality is that these people are being anti-social dickheads emotionally/psychologically harming their own communities, tearing away the social fabric, trust, cohesion INTENTIONALLY. These same spiritual-negroids have the gall to criticise blacks rioting when they have the exact same anti-social instincts manifesting in complete disregard for anything but their own ego. The ones with an IQ higher than 100 are spiritual Randians, the rest are spiritual Floydians.

These people were claiming to be racialists but they have absolutely zero regard for the white elderly in their communities. People really try to justify this anti-social bullshit by claiming it's some sort of power-struggle with the state? Get to fuck. The state isn't there in the store, but the 90 year old lady is. Anyone who puts muh liberty over their duty to their actual real life race-community will never know what it means to be a nationalist.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The ones with an IQ higher than 100 are spiritual Randians, the rest are spiritual Floydians.

Fucking spot on.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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