An honest question to the pro-vax people on this sub, why do you trust the state on the vaccine issue?

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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I haven't seen a good reason not to take it. Vaccines rolled out well over a year, and obviously there is no dying on a mass scale and people don't get paralyzed or infertile or something. Every single anti-vax stuff I saw is pure fearmongering.

Just count on top of your head how many people have died of covid vs how many people have died of vaccine side effects (or if you want to expand, how many people have had severe symptoms of covid vs how many people have had severe side effects of the vaccine).

I didn't counter-signal 5G stuff that much because I do believe all cellular networks have harmful long-term effects on humans, I just don't see how the vaccine could have some long-term effects.

[–]Ponderer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I didn't counter-signal 5G stuff that much because I do believe all cellular networks have harmful long-term effects on humans

Not to go off topic but I'd like to hear more about this

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Cancer rates have been skyrocketing for 100 of years really, but they began to skyrocketing even more in the 90s. It's a disease of modern age really, just look at cancer prevalence around the world (plus you can see the cancer increase since the 90s) [1].

There are multiple studies saying people living near cell towers have higher chance of cancer. Most studies say data is inconclusive or whatever, but that's just quackademic jargon for "we and our telecom donors don't like the results".

I'd like to see more research into cellphones too, not just towers, cell phones radiate far more due to their proximity to you.

I don't buy "non-ionizing radiation" argument either, sun rays are non-ionizing too, yet obviously you can get skin cancer when you're exposed to sun too much.

Overall, every study I've read won't say "No, RF doesn't cause cancer" outright, because everyone knows it's bullshit, same as when CDC told masks don't work. But phones are too convenient to be thrown out of our lives, technology shapes us, not the other way around.

[–]Ponderer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In my ideal world I'd be living out in the sticks inside a house that doubles as a Faraday cage, all of my electronics would have their wi-fi cards torn out, and any connections to the internet would be done purely through hard wires.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In my ideal world I'd just get rid of phones 😎👍