An honest question to the pro-vax people on this sub, why do you trust the state on the vaccine issue?

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

I'd just like to hear their rationalization for getting the vaccine or supporting the vaccine mandate.

I don't do either of these things but I do criticise the anti-vax stuff. The reason why is because none of the arguments make sense, it's all bog standard crazy schizo shit just substituting in 'Covid' and 'vax' around the usual format of the 'NWO genociding everyone apart from 500 million' theory.

If you guys just say you don't want to get it because you don't think it's had sufficient testing (true), you're young and healthy (I hope it's true), you're scared of needles (is prolly true for a lot of people) etc I wouldn't say a thing. I just have an issue against lunatic tier conspiracies about how the elites are trying to genocide everyone who supports them, starting with the jews, for reasons that have absolutely no coherence. Also nobody's theories align and everybody's theories constantly change, so they don't even align with themselves and are constantly proven wrong then they just make up a new theory.

Remember at first it was the bioweapon to wipe out humanity, then all of a sudden it didn't exist and was actually a conspiracy of every single government, along with everyone who works in medicine and hospitals etc in the entire world. Then all of a sudden the vaccine became the bioweapon. Then when the vaccine's death rate wasn't sufficient for that narrative I was told this is just a trial run to make people obedient to take vaccines to prepare people for the real bioweapon that's coming in the future. The other theory is that this is a slow-drip poison that is going to kill people over the long run, convenient unfalsifiable narrative.

Can you guys not see how obviously stupid this all is? Just don't take the vax if you don't want it. Conspiratard shit is gay.

[–]proc0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Wasn't the lab leak a conspiracy theory last year? Dismissing conspiracies based on some wrong predictions doesn't invalidate all of them. For example there are videos of the simulated pandemic, and now Fauci is confirmed liar who funded the lab research. These are two examples who would have been called wacky theories, but now they're all over the place being talked about. How are these false?

There are too many red flags, and I think it's obvious that powerful people will try and cover their tracks. The truth is extremely hard to pinpoint, but to assume everyone in power is just acting like a normal human with no ulterior motives, and they just want to do the best they can... that is crazy to me. Why wouldn't powerful people conspire? They have all the money in the world to organize and plan accordingly. The question to me, is not whether they do, but rather to what extent they have already. At the very least it's a profit grab, cornering the market and pushing new drugs to become even more wealthy and powerful. Is that hard to believe?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Is that hard to believe?

No, you're not responding to what I'm talking about

[–]proc0 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Can you guys not see how obviously stupid this all is? Just don't take the vax if you don't want it.

Don't you see that that is not an option? And ANY reason for not taking the vax is deemed as anti-vax and conspiracy theory? That's what I'm responding to. The people with power are 100% conspiring, they have to even to just do their job.

If you think forcing ALL people to take it is wrong, then we agree, but at least acknowledge that's exactly what is being pushed, and why many "conspiratard shit" is thriving.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Try reading comments before replying

If you guys just say you don't want to get it because you don't think it's had sufficient testing (true), you're young and healthy (I hope it's true), you're scared of needles (is prolly true for a lot of people) etc I wouldn't say a thing. I just have an issue against lunatic tier conspiracies about how the elites are trying to genocide everyone who supports them, starting with the jews, for reasons that have absolutely no coherence. Also nobody's theories align and everybody's theories constantly change, so they don't even align with themselves and are constantly proven wrong then they just make up a new theory.

[–]proc0 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Try responding without being a dick. You clarified absolutely nothing.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

My comment is perfectly clear, it's your reading comprehension that is failing.

[–]proc0 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's too much work to reword your "perfect" comment in order to engage in conversation? You don't see how that is being a dismissive dick? Just rephrase in simple terms, but you're not interested in changing minds, just imposing your position... exactly the problem with society right now.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The problem with society is that it's not putting libertarian schizophrenics in loony bins.

[–]proc0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yep, there are so many millions of schizos we have to mandate their employers to control them. Incredible. We should build camps like in Australia.